[real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
- From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:15:18 -0400
Hi all!
Thanks for the welcome. I'm writing to you from Ontario, Canada. I'm
finishing my last year of high school and will be attending university
*(somewhere) next year, hopefully in science or math, particularly biology
or actuarial science. Should be interesting ...
That new device sounds insane. What do you like so much about the Braille
Note Reginald? It sounds really good, but a lot of the notetakers out there
sound to similar to really decide which is best.
Do any of you use a Trekker? They sound great too - a GPS system using JAWS
speech and totally accessible, as long as the satellite map is good. They're
a bit costly though.
Take care all,
Sarah Jevnikar
P.S.: is there any way to delete one's own email when sending messages to
this list? I keep getting messages I've posted in my inbox.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reginald George" <sgeorge@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:15 PM
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
> Hi Sarah,
>
> welcome to the Real Eyes list. We are a blind computer users group in
> Kansas City. Most of the time we are too lazy to all meet so we have this
> list that people have sort of joined from all over the country and we help
> each other. Once a year or so we try to meet and have steaks and party a
> little. Tell us something about you. There's no such thing as a stupid
> question and, we are all here to help each other. Usually we keep the
> traffic pretty low and just forward interesting information that helps us
> all.
>
> I use a Braille Note which I love. I know there are Packmate users on
> here.
> Where I think it's all going with the notetakers are devices like the Icon
> Plus from Level Star and A.P.H. that are a phone, notetaker, music
> player,
> have blue tooth and Braille support and fit in your pocket with a 30 gig
> hard drive. Makes some of this other stuff look positively obsolete and
> it
> only costs about $1500.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: October 11, 2007 10:13 PM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>
>
> yeah ... a bit of both ... I just joined up a few weeks ago when I was
> looking for list serves on Braillle notetakers. Well ... I didn't find any
> but I found this, which has been interesting so far. Do any of you know
> anything about the Braille Sense, Braillle Note, Packmate etc. or where I
> might go to find introductory stuff on them? I've been using a Braille
> Lite
> 2000 for about 6 years, but I think I might need an upgrade. Any thoughts?
> Thank you,
> Sarah Jevnikar
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 PM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>
>
>> BTY, Are you new to the list, don't post much, or I just don't remember
>> you?
>> Regardless...Hi Sarah!
>> Suzanne Rountree
>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:38 PM
>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>>
>>
>>>
>>> intelligence? what intelligence? lol I'm certainly not insulted. I
>>> was
>>> saying it usually doesn't work because I don't know what I am doing, or
>>> I
>>> get lucky and can read it. Your email was very helpful. Moved it to my
>>> sacred saved teckie folder. smile
>>> Suzanne Rountree
>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:19 PM
>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too true. I'm sorry - I didn't mean to insult your intelligence with
>>>> that
>>>> super-long email. I get like that sometimes ...
>>>> Sarah Jevnikar
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:09 PM
>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the info Sarah. My experience with PDF is it either works
>>>>> or
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't. lol Usually doesn't.
>>>>> Suzanne Rountree
>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Suzanne,
>>>>>> I think Adobe 7 was the earliest to introduce accessibility options
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> JAWS, however there is Adobe 8.1 (I'm not exactly sure the number,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> 8
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> definitely a part of it), which might be worth getting for later
>>>>>> versions
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> JAWS. The latest version of JAWS I have is 7 so I'm not totally sore
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to be as up-to-date as possible.
>>>>>> I've also found with pdf's that some are still unreadable. I don't
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> why
>>>>>> this is, though I think it might have something to do with how the
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> saved. However, most pdf's work fine.
>>>>>> I don't know what your experience with adobe is like, but sometimes a
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> that has just been downloaded appears as a series of buttons, which
>>>>>> say
>>>>>> things like "0" and "jumps to next highlighted section". In such a
>>>>>> case,
>>>>>> you'll just need to hit b a number of times until you get to "Zoom
>>>>>> in"
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then hit enter". you might be presented with a dialog box to confirm
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> request, which just means you'll have to hit enter again. This should
>>>>>> bring
>>>>>> up the document.
>>>>>> I hope this lengthy email makes sense, and good luck.
>>>>>> Oh by the way, I'm sorry I forgot this. Most times when you download
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> PDF
>>>>>> for the first time without setting accessibility options it will
>>>>>> automatically prompt you to do this, through a set of four screens.
>>>>>> Just
>>>>>> tab
>>>>>> through all this and you'll see what I mean. If this doesn't happen,
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> Adobe and look for "accessibility setup assistant" under the help
>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>> Again, I hope this helps.
>>>>>> Sarah Jevnikar
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: "real-eyes" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:10 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] adobe reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which version of adobe works best with jaws 7 and/or 8?
>>>>>>> I have several different adobe things on this PC. when i open a PDF
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it wants me to update, I never know if I should or which one.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Suzanne Rountree
>>>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx
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>>>>>>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 PM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>
>
>> BTY, Are you new to the list, don't post much, or I just don't remember
>> you?
>> Regardless...Hi Sarah!
>> Suzanne Rountree
>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:38 PM
>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>>
>>
>>>
>>> intelligence? what intelligence? lol I'm certainly not insulted. I
>>> was
>>> saying it usually doesn't work because I don't know what I am doing, or
>>> I
>>> get lucky and can read it. Your email was very helpful. Moved it to my
>>> sacred saved teckie folder. smile
>>> Suzanne Rountree
>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:19 PM
>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too true. I'm sorry - I didn't mean to insult your intelligence with
>>>> that
>>>> super-long email. I get like that sometimes ...
>>>> Sarah Jevnikar
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:09 PM
>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the info Sarah. My experience with PDF is it either works
>>>>> or
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't. lol Usually doesn't.
>>>>> Suzanne Rountree
>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Suzanne,
>>>>>> I think Adobe 7 was the earliest to introduce accessibility options
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> JAWS, however there is Adobe 8.1 (I'm not exactly sure the number,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> 8
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> definitely a part of it), which might be worth getting for later
>>>>>> versions
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> JAWS. The latest version of JAWS I have is 7 so I'm not totally sore
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to be as up-to-date as possible.
>>>>>> I've also found with pdf's that some are still unreadable. I don't
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> why
>>>>>> this is, though I think it might have something to do with how the
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> saved. However, most pdf's work fine.
>>>>>> I don't know what your experience with adobe is like, but sometimes a
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> that has just been downloaded appears as a series of buttons, which
>>>>>> say
>>>>>> things like "0" and "jumps to next highlighted section". In such a
>>>>>> case,
>>>>>> you'll just need to hit b a number of times until you get to "Zoom
>>>>>> in"
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then hit enter". you might be presented with a dialog box to confirm
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> request, which just means you'll have to hit enter again. This should
>>>>>> bring
>>>>>> up the document.
>>>>>> I hope this lengthy email makes sense, and good luck.
>>>>>> Oh by the way, I'm sorry I forgot this. Most times when you download
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> PDF
>>>>>> for the first time without setting accessibility options it will
>>>>>> automatically prompt you to do this, through a set of four screens.
>>>>>> Just
>>>>>> tab
>>>>>> through all this and you'll see what I mean. If this doesn't happen,
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> Adobe and look for "accessibility setup assistant" under the help
>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>> Again, I hope this helps.
>>>>>> Sarah Jevnikar
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: "real-eyes" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:10 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] adobe reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which version of adobe works best with jaws 7 and/or 8?
>>>>>>> I have several different adobe things on this PC. when i open a PDF
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it wants me to update, I never know if I should or which one.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Suzanne Rountree
>>>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription
>>>>>>> options,
>>>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription
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>>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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