Suzzane, The only one you really "need" is the Reader. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx >>> "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> 10/12/2007 8:05 AM >>> Looks like I have adobe download manager, adobe atmosphere for adobe = player=20 and adobe reader as well as adobe active share. Are these separate things = I=20 don't need or want or parts of reader? Suzanne Rountree suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader Hello Suzanne and Sarah, Adobe Reader 5 was the first to begin introducing accessibility features. = =3D It was greatly improved in versions 6 and 7. I'm not sure if anything was = =3D improved in version 8 or not, but I assume there was something. The reason some PDF files do not read is because they are image-only PDF = =3D files. Others do read because they have text behind the image. The image = =3D only format is what PDF files were initially intended to be as they were = =3D supposed to be a completely portable document (PDF) and would look the =3D same no matter what computer or printer was used. Adobe has incorporated = =3D the text of documents to make it easier for individuals to both create and = =3D access PDF files. With later versions of Adobe Reader and screen readers, = =3D PDF fiels that have text behind the image are accessible, if they are =3D tagged correctly, but that's another story. <grin> If I were you, I would definitely upgrade to the latest version of Adobe = =3D Reader and add any updates it says are available. I've not heard of any = =3D problems with Adobe Reader from any of my lists. Some of the newer PDF = =3D files will need the latest version of the reader to work correctly. Have fun! Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx=20 >>> "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 10/11/2007 6:34 PM >>> Hi Suzanne, I think Adobe 7 was the earliest to introduce accessibility options = for=3D20 JAWS, however there is Adobe 8.1 (I'm not exactly sure the number, but 8 = =3D is=3D20 definitely a part of it), which might be worth getting for later versions = =3D of=3D20 JAWS. The latest version of JAWS I have is 7 so I'm not totally sore = on=3D20 this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to be as up-to-date as possible. I've also found with pdf's that some are still unreadable. I don't know = =3D why=3D20 this is, though I think it might have something to do with how the file = =3D was=3D20 saved. However, most pdf's work fine. I don't know what your experience with adobe is like, but sometimes a =3D file=3D20 that has just been downloaded appears as a series of buttons, which = say=3D20 things like "0" and "jumps to next highlighted section". In such a =3D case,=3D20 you'll just need to hit b a number of times until you get to "Zoom in" =3D and=3D20 then hit enter". you might be presented with a dialog box to confirm =3D your=3D20 request, which just means you'll have to hit enter again. This should =3D bring=3D20 up the document. I hope this lengthy email makes sense, and good luck. Oh by the way, I'm sorry I forgot this. Most times when you download a =3D PDF=3D20 for the first time without setting accessibility options it will=3D20 automatically prompt you to do this, through a set of four screens. Just = =3D tab=3D20 through all this and you'll see what I mean. If this doesn't happen, =3D open=3D20 Adobe and look for "accessibility setup assistant" under the help menu. Again, I hope this helps. Sarah Jevnikar ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "real-eyes" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:10 PM Subject: [real-eyes] adobe reader > which version of adobe works best with jaws 7 and/or 8? > I have several different adobe things on this PC. when i open a PDF =3D and=3D20 > it wants me to update, I never know if I should or which one. 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