yeah ... a bit of both ... I just joined up a few weeks ago when I was looking for list serves on Braillle notetakers. Well ... I didn't find any but I found this, which has been interesting so far. Do any of you know anything about the Braille Sense, Braillle Note, Packmate etc. or where I might go to find introductory stuff on them? I've been using a Braille Lite 2000 for about 6 years, but I think I might need an upgrade. Any thoughts? Thank you, Sarah Jevnikar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 PM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > BTY, Are you new to the list, don't post much, or I just don't remember > you? > Regardless...Hi Sarah! > Suzanne Rountree > Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:38 PM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > >> >> intelligence? what intelligence? lol I'm certainly not insulted. I >> was >> saying it usually doesn't work because I don't know what I am doing, or I >> get lucky and can read it. Your email was very helpful. Moved it to my >> sacred saved teckie folder. smile >> Suzanne Rountree >> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:19 PM >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >> >> >>> >>> Too true. I'm sorry - I didn't mean to insult your intelligence with >>> that >>> super-long email. I get like that sometimes ... >>> Sarah Jevnikar >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:09 PM >>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for the info Sarah. My experience with PDF is it either works >>>> or >>>> it >>>> doesn't. lol Usually doesn't. >>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:34 PM >>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Suzanne, >>>>> I think Adobe 7 was the earliest to introduce accessibility options >>>>> for >>>>> JAWS, however there is Adobe 8.1 (I'm not exactly sure the number, but >>>>> 8 >>>>> is >>>>> definitely a part of it), which might be worth getting for later >>>>> versions >>>>> of >>>>> JAWS. The latest version of JAWS I have is 7 so I'm not totally sore >>>>> on >>>>> this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to be as up-to-date as possible. >>>>> I've also found with pdf's that some are still unreadable. I don't >>>>> know >>>>> why >>>>> this is, though I think it might have something to do with how the >>>>> file >>>>> was >>>>> saved. However, most pdf's work fine. >>>>> I don't know what your experience with adobe is like, but sometimes a >>>>> file >>>>> that has just been downloaded appears as a series of buttons, which >>>>> say >>>>> things like "0" and "jumps to next highlighted section". In such a >>>>> case, >>>>> you'll just need to hit b a number of times until you get to "Zoom in" >>>>> and >>>>> then hit enter". you might be presented with a dialog box to confirm >>>>> your >>>>> request, which just means you'll have to hit enter again. This should >>>>> bring >>>>> up the document. >>>>> I hope this lengthy email makes sense, and good luck. >>>>> Oh by the way, I'm sorry I forgot this. Most times when you download a >>>>> PDF >>>>> for the first time without setting accessibility options it will >>>>> automatically prompt you to do this, through a set of four screens. >>>>> Just >>>>> tab >>>>> through all this and you'll see what I mean. If this doesn't happen, >>>>> open >>>>> Adobe and look for "accessibility setup assistant" under the help >>>>> menu. >>>>> Again, I hope this helps. >>>>> Sarah Jevnikar >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: "real-eyes" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:10 PM >>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] adobe reader >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> which version of adobe works best with jaws 7 and/or 8? >>>>>> I have several different adobe things on this PC. when i open a PDF >>>>>> and >>>>>> it wants me to update, I never know if I should or which one. >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>>>> >>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>>> options, >>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>> options, >>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>> >>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>> options, >>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>> >>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> >> > > > This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 PM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > BTY, Are you new to the list, don't post much, or I just don't remember > you? > Regardless...Hi Sarah! > Suzanne Rountree > Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:38 PM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > >> >> intelligence? what intelligence? lol I'm certainly not insulted. I >> was >> saying it usually doesn't work because I don't know what I am doing, or I >> get lucky and can read it. Your email was very helpful. Moved it to my >> sacred saved teckie folder. smile >> Suzanne Rountree >> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:19 PM >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >> >> >>> >>> Too true. I'm sorry - I didn't mean to insult your intelligence with >>> that >>> super-long email. I get like that sometimes ... >>> Sarah Jevnikar >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:09 PM >>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for the info Sarah. My experience with PDF is it either works >>>> or >>>> it >>>> doesn't. lol Usually doesn't. >>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:34 PM >>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Suzanne, >>>>> I think Adobe 7 was the earliest to introduce accessibility options >>>>> for >>>>> JAWS, however there is Adobe 8.1 (I'm not exactly sure the number, but >>>>> 8 >>>>> is >>>>> definitely a part of it), which might be worth getting for later >>>>> versions >>>>> of >>>>> JAWS. The latest version of JAWS I have is 7 so I'm not totally sore >>>>> on >>>>> this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to be as up-to-date as possible. >>>>> I've also found with pdf's that some are still unreadable. I don't >>>>> know >>>>> why >>>>> this is, though I think it might have something to do with how the >>>>> file >>>>> was >>>>> saved. However, most pdf's work fine. >>>>> I don't know what your experience with adobe is like, but sometimes a >>>>> file >>>>> that has just been downloaded appears as a series of buttons, which >>>>> say >>>>> things like "0" and "jumps to next highlighted section". In such a >>>>> case, >>>>> you'll just need to hit b a number of times until you get to "Zoom in" >>>>> and >>>>> then hit enter". you might be presented with a dialog box to confirm >>>>> your >>>>> request, which just means you'll have to hit enter again. This should >>>>> bring >>>>> up the document. >>>>> I hope this lengthy email makes sense, and good luck. >>>>> Oh by the way, I'm sorry I forgot this. Most times when you download a >>>>> PDF >>>>> for the first time without setting accessibility options it will >>>>> automatically prompt you to do this, through a set of four screens. >>>>> Just >>>>> tab >>>>> through all this and you'll see what I mean. If this doesn't happen, >>>>> open >>>>> Adobe and look for "accessibility setup assistant" under the help >>>>> menu. >>>>> Again, I hope this helps. >>>>> Sarah Jevnikar >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: "real-eyes" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:10 PM >>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] adobe reader >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> which version of adobe works best with jaws 7 and/or 8? >>>>>> I have several different adobe things on this PC. when i open a PDF >>>>>> and >>>>>> it wants me to update, I never know if I should or which one. >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>>>> >>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>>> options, >>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>> options, >>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>> >>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>> options, >>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>> >>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> >> > > > This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes