Another option is to run it through some sort of OCR program that handles = PDF files. One other option is to print the file then scan it with Open = Book or K1000. Not the perfect solution, but at least options. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx >>> "Nancy VanSandt" <maxvanwon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 10/12/2007 12:22 PM >>> Suzanne, anything they send you will most probably be a scanned = document,=20 or, an image rather than actual text, which is why we can't read it.=20 Because what they send is pretty much that way, you will need to request=20= that they send you actual text. It had to start out as a printed file = on=20 somebody's PC, so see what you can do about that. Nancy Van Sandt, Buddy and Curly's House Joshua24:15 "But as for me and my household, We will serve the Lord." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:52 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > ah, that would explain my difficulties. The files I'm usually dealing=20= > with > come as attachments from both of the companies I work for. > > Suzanne Rountree > suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Ben Blagg" <bblagg@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:25 AM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > > > Good morning Suzanne, > > Some files are scanned either in PDF or Word. Some of these files can = be > found on the web or if you get one that the screen reader indicates = an=20 > empty > file, but everyone tells you there is text, then you will know it is a > scanned file and Jaws won't read it regardless what format it is. > Ben Blagg > > Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep > voting on what to have for dinner. > ---James Bovard > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:34 PM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > >> Hi Suzanne, >> I think Adobe 7 was the earliest to introduce accessibility options for >> JAWS, however there is Adobe 8.1 (I'm not exactly sure the number, but = 8 > is >> definitely a part of it), which might be worth getting for later = versions > of >> JAWS. The latest version of JAWS I have is 7 so I'm not totally sore on >> this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to be as up-to-date as possible. >> I've also found with pdf's that some are still unreadable. I don't know > why >> this is, though I think it might have something to do with how the file > was >> saved. However, most pdf's work fine. >> I don't know what your experience with adobe is like, but sometimes = a=20 >> file >> that has just been downloaded appears as a series of buttons, which say >> things like "0" and "jumps to next highlighted section". In such a = case, >> you'll just need to hit b a number of times until you get to "Zoom = in"=20 >> and >> then hit enter". you might be presented with a dialog box to confirm = your >> request, which just means you'll have to hit enter again. This should > bring >> up the document. >> I hope this lengthy email makes sense, and good luck. >> Oh by the way, I'm sorry I forgot this. Most times when you download = a=20 >> PDF >> for the first time without setting accessibility options it will >> automatically prompt you to do this, through a set of four screens. = Just > tab >> through all this and you'll see what I mean. If this doesn't happen, = open >> Adobe and look for "accessibility setup assistant" under the help menu. >> Again, I hope this helps. >> Sarah Jevnikar >> ----- Original Message -----=20 >> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: "real-eyes" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:10 PM >> Subject: [real-eyes] adobe reader >> >> >> > which version of adobe works best with jaws 7 and/or 8? >> > I have several different adobe things on this PC. when i open a = PDF=20 >> > and >> > it wants me to update, I never know if I should or which one. = Thanks. >> > Suzanne Rountree >> > Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx=20 >> > This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >> > >> > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription=20 >> > options, >> > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes=20 >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription = options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes=20 >> >> >> >> --=20 >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1049 - Release Date: = 10/4/07 > 8:59 AM >> >> > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription = options,=20 > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes=20 > > > > > This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription = options,=20 > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes=20 > >=20 To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, = go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes=20 To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes