[pure-silver] Re: Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"

  • From: Snoopy <snoopy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 10:35:21 +0200

The next big challenge for the world is to learn how to slow down...and
do it too...

Love,
Snoopy


On 10/01/2010 11:49 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
> I could see that happening via development but with the hard dramatic 
> sunlight, 
> all those bumps and so on will cast shadows.  Discoloration wasn't too bad. 
> Ack, 
> it's hard to talk about this stuff!
> 
> It reminds me of a gig w/a shooter I used to print for in town who sent me 
> some 
> medium format he'd shot of a baby.  I processed & proofed it, & eventually 
> made 
> some prints for him. 
> There were these bumps on the baby's nose etc. that, from what I understand, 
> show up on some newborns and he didn't notice it when he shot it, guessing by 
> his reaction.  He started blaming the makeup artist for not covering them up. 
>  I 
> told him it's texture and unless she used silly putty, she wouldn't have been 
> able to cover that!  He was a piece of work.
> 
> The turn around time is what really did film in professionally and is why few 
> pros are seen around here anymore. =(  Agencies want it now and that's that.  
> I 
> had one pro client shoot film a couple years back because he sold his client 
> on 
> the idea and liked me too I guess.  I know that his client was waiting 
> impatiently for the proofs and once the proofs were in their hands, they 
> still 
> didn't have anything on their screens they could work with.  
> e
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 3:41:01 PM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"
> 
>  
> DEAR ERIC,
>             When I want smooth skin I don’t use either PMK or Pyrocat HD 
> because 
> the HD created by the edge effects in either of those developers will 
> exaggerate 
> any skin defects.  A dev that doesn’t boost edge effects, hence definition, 
> might be better.
>             Though I shoot all my personal and fine art work on film, I 
> simply 
> cannot compete for commercial jobs shooting film.  Clients just won’t pay for 
> the film & processing any more and expect the rapid completion of work 
> possible 
> with digital.  That said, I often have to clean up skin when doing any kind 
> of 
> close-up or portrait.  It takes significant work selecting the skin areas, 
> deselecting the eyebrows, eyes & lashes, lips & mouth, etc on a separate 
> layer.  
> Then I soften the layer containing only the skin and blend it proportionally 
> with the background layer to smooth the skin texture without loosing the 
> sense 
> of sharpness given by those deselected areas.  
> 
>             Before anyone jumps on me about discussing digital image 
> processing, 
> I do the same thing with images originated on film which I scan.  Clients 
> want 
> digital files regardless of how the image is captured.  So, though not “pure 
> silver”, definitely hybrid.  
> 
>                         CHEERS!
>                                     BOB 
> 
> 
>       

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