[pure-silver] Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"
- From: Elias_Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:19:44 -0400
Just curious - what are "skin issues"?
And why would film make it more of a problem than digital?
Elias
On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
> I've no experience w/these, but wet mounting does help w/scratches. I
> wouldn't use them for anything smaller than 4x5 although others do and are
> happy. Maybe they say GEFTA a lot.
> There's a plethora of info out there with comparisons, images and so on. You
> can even sign up here.
>
> I had a model come by to be shot recently and I had every intention of using
> film, pyrocat hd etc. but she had some skin issues and right there I knew
> film would be just an extra step in making the images. I'd have to scan, fix
> issues then, if I was really serious about the image, output it back to film
> to print in the darkroom. Wasn't worth it.
> BUT, the location had very strong, dramatic light happening and made for a
> difficult time for digital and I still had to do a lotta work, just in front
> of a monitor. So if the model had not had the skin issues, I would have
> perhaps had an easier time working with the resulting film I didn't shoot.
>
> From: "mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 12:14:43 PM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>
> Curious to see others reaction. Epson now as a scanner out that has a "wet
> mount" and wondered just what everyone thought about that system. I am more
> interested in how it would work with black and white since the digital ice
> features do not work with monochrome.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
> From: Robert Randall <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, October 01, 2010 8:20 am
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> I have two Isomet 405 drum scanners, they are quite possibly the finest drum
> scanners ever made. Having worked with Hell, Heidelberg, Screen and a few
> others over a 35 year career, I feel I know what I’m talking about.
>
> A few years ago, Jeff Schewe told me the Imacon 848 was as good as any drum
> scanner he ever encountered, so naturally I was curious to see the machine in
> action. He invited the Imacon regional sales rep along with their main
> engineer into my studio for a demonstration, the results were just abysmal.
> It turned out that the Imacon was nothing more than a retro fit Leaf 45 tower
> scanner from 1993 or so, and it couldn’t find shadow detail with a map. Their
> pronouncement was that the Imacon would best the Isomet, and in 6 hours of
> embarrassing tests, their engineer couldn’t come remotely close to the detail
> and range of an Isomet scan.
>
> The reason for my rant is to point out the current sad state of affairs for
> film reproduction. No one is supporting drum scanners any longer, and soon
> there won’t be any left to make quality scans with. Leaving everyone to
> believe that an Imacon is the best there ever was, when in fact it isn’t much
> more than a glorified paper weight.
>
> Lastly, the Isomet is a piece of cake to operate, I could have anyone of you
> making quality scans in one 20 minute session.
>
> Bob Randall
>
>
>
>
> On 10/1/10 12:55 AM, "Jim Brick" <jim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Imacon is still available from Hasselblad and there are plenty of Imacon
> scanners available on eBay. Many of the commercial labs moved from the very
> expensive and difficult to operate drum scanner to the Imacon (virtual drum
> scanner). It is a great scanner.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>
> Yes the pro-sumer variety like the 9000.
> I assume by big iron you mean drums. Drums are within the reach of us mere
> mortals since their value has dropped which works for me!
>
>
>
> From: Dana Myers <dana.myers@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:37:55 PM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>
> On 9/30/2010 9:47 AM, Eric Nelson wrote:
> Now if they can bring back the high end film scanners they've been
> eliminating...
>
> Are you referring to prosumer scanners like the Nikon LS9000,
> or to commercial-grade big iron scanners?
>
> It's not like the industry is going back to wet-process for prints.
> I am, however, quite happy that I invested in an LS9000 when I
> did.
>
> Dana
>
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