[pure-silver] Re: Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"
- From: Eric Nelson <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
That's what I meant. In digital it was hard to control highlights and w/film I
could have probably had less trouble as well as a greater range.
Exposure couldn't have helped that skin enough on that day using film.
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From: Snoopy <snoopy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 1:36:41 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"
Dear List,
this post by Eric really surprised me: I find film a LOT better with
blotchy skin etc. than digital.
I use film and overexpose by at least one stop, sometimes even more. The
overesposure gets rid of most irregularites.
And if you are careful enough with the development, your highlights
don't nurn out.
In our workshops the digital crowd just loses out:the highlights get
frayed and the models skin looks like a lunar landscape. UGH.
And bear in mind: what's burnt out is burnt out and no amount of digital
processing will get it back. then the only resort is to do Photoshiop
skin grafts...:-)
Love,
Snoopy
On 10/01/2010 08:19 PM, Elias_Roustom wrote:
> Just curious - what are "skin issues"?
> And why would film make it more of a problem than digital?
>
> Elias
>
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>
>> I've no experience w/these, but wet mounting does help w/scratches. I
>> wouldn't
>>use them for anything smaller than 4x5 although others do and are happy.
>>Maybe
>>they say GEFTA a lot.
>> There's a plethora of info out there with comparisons, images and so on.
>> You
>>can even sign up here.
>>
>> I had a model come by to be shot recently and I had every intention of using
>>film, pyrocat hd etc. but she had some skin issues and right there I knew
>>film
>>would be just an extra step in making the images. I'd have to scan, fix
>>issues
>>then, if I was really serious about the image, output it back to film to
>>print
>>in the darkroom. Wasn't worth it.
>> BUT, the location had very strong, dramatic light happening and made for a
>>difficult time for digital and I still had to do a lotta work, just in front
>>of
>>a monitor. So if the model had not had the skin issues, I would have perhaps
>>had an easier time working with the resulting film I didn't shoot.
>>
>> From: "mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 12:14:43 PM
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>>
>> Curious to see others reaction. Epson now as a scanner out that has a "wet
>>mount" and wondered just what everyone thought about that system. I am more
>>interested in how it would work with black and white since the digital ice
>>features do not work with monochrome.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>> From: Robert Randall <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Fri, October 01, 2010 8:20 am
>> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> I have two Isomet 405 drum scanners, they are quite possibly the finest drum
>>scanners ever made. Having worked with Hell, Heidelberg, Screen and a few
>>others
>>over a 35 year career, I feel I know what I’m talking about.
>>
>> A few years ago, Jeff Schewe told me the Imacon 848 was as good as any drum
>>scanner he ever encountered, so naturally I was curious to see the machine in
>>action. He invited the Imacon regional sales rep along with their main
>>engineer
>>into my studio for a demonstration, the results were just abysmal. It turned
>>out
>>that the Imacon was nothing more than a retro fit Leaf 45 tower scanner from
>>1993 or so, and it couldn’t find shadow detail with a map. Their
>>pronouncement
>>was that the Imacon would best the Isomet, and in 6 hours of embarrassing
>>tests,
>>their engineer couldn’t come remotely close to the detail and range of an
>>Isomet
>>scan.
>>
>>
>> The reason for my rant is to point out the current sad state of affairs for
>>film reproduction. No one is supporting drum scanners any longer, and soon
>>there
>>won’t be any left to make quality scans with. Leaving everyone to believe
>>that
>>an Imacon is the best there ever was, when in fact it isn’t much more than a
>>glorified paper weight.
>>
>> Lastly, the Isomet is a piece of cake to operate, I could have anyone of you
>>making quality scans in one 20 minute session.
>>
>> Bob Randall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/1/10 12:55 AM, "Jim Brick" <jim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Imacon is still available from Hasselblad and there are plenty of Imacon
>>scanners available on eBay. Many of the commercial labs moved from the very
>>expensive and difficult to operate drum scanner to the Imacon (virtual drum
>>scanner). It is a great scanner.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>>
>> Yes the pro-sumer variety like the 9000.
>> I assume by big iron you mean drums. Drums are within the reach of us mere
>>mortals since their value has dropped which works for me!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Dana Myers <dana.myers@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:37:55 PM
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>>
>> On 9/30/2010 9:47 AM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>> Now if they can bring back the high end film scanners they've been
>>eliminating...
>>
>>
>> Are you referring to prosumer scanners like the Nikon LS9000,
>> or to commercial-grade big iron scanners?
>>
>> It's not like the industry is going back to wet-process for prints.
>> I am, however, quite happy that I invested in an LS9000 when I
>> did.
>>
>> Dana
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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