[pure-silver] Re: Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"
- From: Eric Nelson <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT)
pimples, bumps, etc. these cast shadows and unless diffused in some way are
very obvious. digitally i can remove them easily.
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From: Elias_Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 1:19:44 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"
Just curious - what are "skin issues"?
And why would film make it more of a problem than digital?
Elias
On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
I've no experience w/these, but wet mounting does help w/scratches. I wouldn't
use them for anything smaller than 4x5 although others do and are happy. Maybe
they say GEFTA a lot.
>There's a plethora of info out there with comparisons, images and so on. You
>can even sign up here.
>
>
>I had a model come by to be shot recently and I had every intention of using
>film, pyrocat hd etc. but she had some skin issues and right there I knew film
>would be just an extra step in making the images. I'd have to scan, fix
>issues
>then, if I was really serious about the image, output it back to film to print
>in the darkroom. Wasn't worth it.
>BUT, the location had very strong, dramatic light happening and made for a
>difficult time for digital and I still had to do a lotta work, just in front
>of
>a monitor. So if the model had not had the skin issues, I would have perhaps
>had an easier time working with the resulting film I didn't shoot.
>
>
>
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From: "mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 12:14:43 PM
>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>
>Curious to see others reaction. Epson now as a scanner out that has a "wet
>mount" and wondered just what everyone thought about that system. I am more
>interested in how it would work with black and white since the digital ice
>features do not work with monochrome.
>
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>-------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>>From: Robert Randall <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: Fri, October 01, 2010 8:20 am
>>To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>I have two Isomet 405 drum scanners, they are quite possibly the finest drum
>>scanners ever made. Having worked with Hell, Heidelberg, Screen and a few
>>others
>>over a 35 year career, I feel I know what I’m talking about.
>>
>>A few years ago, Jeff Schewe told me the Imacon 848 was as good as any drum
>>scanner he ever encountered, so naturally I was curious to see the machine in
>>action. He invited the Imacon regional sales rep along with their main
>>engineer
>>into my studio for a demonstration, the results were just abysmal. It turned
>>out
>>that the Imacon was nothing more than a retro fit Leaf 45 tower scanner from
>>1993 or so, and it couldn’t find shadow detail with a map. Their
>>pronouncement
>>was that the Imacon would best the Isomet, and in 6 hours of embarrassing
>>tests,
>>their engineer couldn’t come remotely close to the detail and range of an
>>Isomet
>>scan.
>>
>>The reason for my rant is to point out the current sad state of affairs for
>>film
>>reproduction. No one is supporting drum scanners any longer, and soon there
>>won’t be any left to make quality scans with. Leaving everyone to believe
>>that
>>an Imacon is the best there ever was, when in fact it isn’t much more than a
>>glorified paper weight.
>>
>>Lastly, the Isomet is a piece of cake to operate, I could have anyone of you
>>making quality scans in one 20 minute session.
>>
>>Bob Randall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 10/1/10 12:55 AM, "Jim Brick" <jim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Imacon is still available from Hasselblad and there are plenty of Imacon
>>scanners available on eBay. Many of the commercial labs moved from the very
>>expensive and difficult to operate drum scanner to the Imacon (virtual drum
>>scanner). It is a great scanner.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sep 30, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes the pro-sumer variety like the 9000.
>>>>I assume by big iron you mean drums. Drums are within the reach of us mere
>>>>mortals since their value has dropped which works for me!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From: Dana Myers <dana.myers@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:37:55 PM
>>>>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>>>>
>>>>On 9/30/2010 9:47 AM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Now if they can bring back the high end film scanners they've been
>>>>eliminating...
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you referring to prosumer scanners like the Nikon LS9000,
>>>or to commercial-grade big iron scanners?
>>>
>>>It's not like the industry is going back to wet-process for prints.
>>>I am, however, quite happy that I invested in an LS9000 when I
>>>did.
>>>
>>>Dana
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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