[pure-silver] Re: Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"

  • From: Eric Nelson <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:49:38 -0700 (PDT)

I could see that happening via development but with the hard dramatic sunlight, 
all those bumps and so on will cast shadows.  Discoloration wasn't too bad. 
Ack, 
it's hard to talk about this stuff!

It reminds me of a gig w/a shooter I used to print for in town who sent me some 
medium format he'd shot of a baby.  I processed & proofed it, & eventually made 
some prints for him. 
There were these bumps on the baby's nose etc. that, from what I understand, 
show up on some newborns and he didn't notice it when he shot it, guessing by 
his reaction.  He started blaming the makeup artist for not covering them up.  
I 
told him it's texture and unless she used silly putty, she wouldn't have been 
able to cover that!  He was a piece of work.

The turn around time is what really did film in professionally and is why few 
pros are seen around here anymore. =(  Agencies want it now and that's that.  I 
had one pro client shoot film a couple years back because he sold his client on 
the idea and liked me too I guess.  I know that his client was waiting 
impatiently for the proofs and once the proofs were in their hands, they still 
didn't have anything on their screens they could work with.  
e




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From: BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 3:41:01 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"

 
DEAR ERIC,
            When I want smooth skin I don’t use either PMK or Pyrocat HD 
because 
the HD created by the edge effects in either of those developers will 
exaggerate 
any skin defects.  A dev that doesn’t boost edge effects, hence definition, 
might be better.
            Though I shoot all my personal and fine art work on film, I simply 
cannot compete for commercial jobs shooting film.  Clients just won’t pay for 
the film & processing any more and expect the rapid completion of work possible 
with digital.  That said, I often have to clean up skin when doing any kind of 
close-up or portrait.  It takes significant work selecting the skin areas, 
deselecting the eyebrows, eyes & lashes, lips & mouth, etc on a separate layer. 
 
Then I soften the layer containing only the skin and blend it proportionally 
with the background layer to smooth the skin texture without loosing the sense 
of sharpness given by those deselected areas.  

            Before anyone jumps on me about discussing digital image 
processing, 
I do the same thing with images originated on film which I scan.  Clients want 
digital files regardless of how the image is captured.  So, though not “pure 
silver”, definitely hybrid.  

                        CHEERS!
                                    BOB 


      

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