[pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"

  • From: Eric Nelson <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:05:09 -0700 (PDT)

I've no experience w/these, but wet mounting does help w/scratches.  I wouldn't 
use them for anything smaller than 4x5 although others do and are happy.  Maybe 
they say GEFTA a lot.
There's a plethora of info out there with comparisons, images and so on.  You 
can even sign up here.

I had a model come by to be shot recently and I had every intention of using 
film, pyrocat hd etc. but she had some skin issues and right there I knew film 
would be just an extra step in making the images.  I'd have to scan, fix issues 
then, if I was really serious about the image, output it back to film to print 
in the darkroom.  Wasn't worth it.
BUT, the location had very strong, dramatic light happening and made for a 
difficult time for digital and I still had to do a lotta work, just in front of 
a monitor.  So if the model had not had the skin issues, I would have perhaps 
had an easier time working with the resulting film I didn't shoot.



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From: "mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 12:14:43 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"

Curious to see others reaction.   Epson now as a scanner out that has a "wet 
mount" and wondered just what everyone thought about that system.  I am more 
interested in how it would work with black and white since the digital ice 
features do not work with monochrome.


-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>From: Robert Randall <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Fri, October 01, 2010 8:20 am
>To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>I have two Isomet 405 drum scanners, they are quite possibly the finest drum 
>scanners ever made. Having worked with Hell, Heidelberg, Screen and a few 
>others 
>over a 35 year career, I feel I know what I’m talking about.
>
>A few years ago, Jeff Schewe told me the Imacon 848 was as good as any drum 
>scanner he ever encountered, so naturally I was curious to see the machine in 
>action. He invited the Imacon regional sales rep along with their main 
>engineer 
>into my studio for a demonstration, the results were just abysmal. It turned 
>out 
>that the Imacon was nothing more than a retro fit Leaf 45 tower scanner from 
>1993 or so, and it couldn’t find shadow detail with a map. Their pronouncement 
>was that the Imacon would best the Isomet, and in 6 hours of embarrassing 
>tests, 
>their engineer couldn’t come remotely close to the detail and range of an 
>Isomet 
>scan. 
>
>
>The reason for my rant is to point out the current sad state of affairs for 
>film 
>reproduction. No one is supporting drum scanners any longer, and soon there 
>won’t be any left to make quality scans with. Leaving everyone to believe that 
>an Imacon is the best there ever was, when in fact it isn’t much more than a 
>glorified paper weight.
>
>Lastly, the Isomet is a piece of cake to operate, I could have anyone of you 
>making quality scans in one 20 minute session.
>
>Bob Randall
>
>
>
>
>On 10/1/10 12:55 AM, "Jim Brick" <jim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>Imacon is still available from Hasselblad and there are plenty of Imacon 
>scanners available on eBay. Many of the commercial labs moved from the very 
>expensive and difficult to operate drum scanner to the Imacon (virtual drum 
>scanner). It is a great scanner.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>On Sep 30, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>>
>>
>>Yes the pro-sumer variety like the 9000.  
>>>I assume by big iron you mean drums.  Drums are within the reach of us mere 
>>>mortals since their value has dropped which works for me!  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
________________________________
From:Dana Myers <dana.myers@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:37:55 PM
>>>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
>>>
>>>On 9/30/2010 9:47 AM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>>>
>>>Now if they can bring back the high end film scanners they've been 
>>>eliminating... 
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Are you referring to prosumer scanners like the Nikon LS9000,
>>or to commercial-grade big iron scanners?
>>
>>It's not like the industry is going back to wet-process for prints.
>>I am, however, quite happy that I invested in an LS9000 when I
>>did.
>>
>>Dana
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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