[pure-silver] Re: Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"
- From: "K W Hart" <kwhart1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 17:29:28 -0400
I photograph a lot of 'mature' clients and a lot of high school seniors, so I
get "skin issues". In the past, I often used a soft focus filter. When I got
rid of my minilab and put in an enlarger (Eseco AF-45) and roller transport
processor, I started using the the soft focus filter in the darkroom.
If that doesn't do the trick for big enlargements, then I get out the old
hand-coloring oil paints.
Ken Hart
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From: Elias_Roustom
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:19 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Skin & Film, was Film Having A "Resurgence"
Just curious - what are "skin issues"?
And why would film make it more of a problem than digital?
Elias
On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
I've no experience w/these, but wet mounting does help w/scratches. I
wouldn't use them for anything smaller than 4x5 although others do and are
happy. Maybe they say GEFTA a lot.
There's a plethora of info out there with comparisons, images and so on.
You can even sign up here.
I had a model come by to be shot recently and I had every intention of
using film, pyrocat hd etc. but she had some skin issues and right there I knew
film would be just an extra step in making the images. I'd have to scan, fix
issues then, if I was really serious about the image, output it back to film to
print in the darkroom. Wasn't worth it.
BUT, the location had very strong, dramatic light happening and made for a
difficult time for digital and I still had to do a lotta work, just in front of
a monitor. So if the model had not had the skin issues, I would have perhaps
had an easier time working with the resulting film I didn't shoot.
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From: "mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 12:14:43 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
Curious to see others reaction. Epson now as a scanner out that has a
"wet mount" and wondered just what everyone thought about that system. I am
more interested in how it would work with black and white since the digital ice
features do not work with monochrome.
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
From: Robert Randall <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, October 01, 2010 8:20 am
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I have two Isomet 405 drum scanners, they are quite possibly the finest
drum scanners ever made. Having worked with Hell, Heidelberg, Screen and a few
others over a 35 year career, I feel I know what I’m talking about.
A few years ago, Jeff Schewe told me the Imacon 848 was as good as any
drum scanner he ever encountered, so naturally I was curious to see the machine
in action. He invited the Imacon regional sales rep along with their main
engineer into my studio for a demonstration, the results were just abysmal. It
turned out that the Imacon was nothing more than a retro fit Leaf 45 tower
scanner from 1993 or so, and it couldn’t find shadow detail with a map. Their
pronouncement was that the Imacon would best the Isomet, and in 6 hours of
embarrassing tests, their engineer couldn’t come remotely close to the detail
and range of an Isomet scan.
The reason for my rant is to point out the current sad state of affairs
for film reproduction. No one is supporting drum scanners any longer, and soon
there won’t be any left to make quality scans with. Leaving everyone to believe
that an Imacon is the best there ever was, when in fact it isn’t much more than
a glorified paper weight.
Lastly, the Isomet is a piece of cake to operate, I could have anyone of
you making quality scans in one 20 minute session.
Bob Randall
On 10/1/10 12:55 AM, "Jim Brick" <jim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Imacon is still available from Hasselblad and there are plenty of
Imacon scanners available on eBay. Many of the commercial labs moved from the
very expensive and difficult to operate drum scanner to the Imacon (virtual
drum scanner). It is a great scanner.
Jim
On Sep 30, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
Yes the pro-sumer variety like the 9000.
I assume by big iron you mean drums. Drums are within the reach of
us mere mortals since their value has dropped which works for me!
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From: Dana Myers <dana.myers@xxxxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:37:55 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Having A "Resurgence"
On 9/30/2010 9:47 AM, Eric Nelson wrote:
Now if they can bring back the high end film scanners they've been
eliminating...
Are you referring to prosumer scanners like the Nikon LS9000,
or to commercial-grade big iron scanners?
It's not like the industry is going back to wet-process for prints.
I am, however, quite happy that I invested in an LS9000 when I
did.
Dana
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