From: "John Black" <jblack@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Pyro in a Jobo Processor Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:04:00 -0500 > Can't think why Ca and/or Mg sequestration might improve DNA > mobility in gel... this might have implications for photography as > the gelatin layer is a gel also and silver halide/sliver granules > may have some degree of mobility (undesirable, as it might lead to > graininess) but no electric field is applied to the film (not on > purpose that is). As far as I know there is no solid report relating grain mobility to graininess. Developing grains move slightly when filament is forming rapidly, but this is only visible under electron microscope. Silver halide crystals are usually 0.1 to 1 micron in diameter and the net volume is reduced when developed because halides are released into the developer leaving denser silver. Gelatin has strong adsorption on silver halides and that is probably enough to prevent grains from dislocating in gelled gelatin. In modern commercial emulsions, silver-to-gelatin ratio is probably 1 or higher in mass, but in terms of volume in dry layer, it's about 0.05 and in swollen gelatin layer even smaller. These ratios are smaller in older commercial emulsions which generally had more gelatin per silver coating weight. Different degrees of graininess of developer solutions can be explained by the factors affecting the morphology of developed grains, and so far no one has established "mobility" of silver has anything to do with graininess or morphology of developed silver. Also, I think electrophoresis is done on crosslinked polyacrylamide or maybe some other polymer, which is quite different from gelatin. -- Ryuji Suzuki "Keep a good head and always carry a light camera." ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.