On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 16:57 -0700, Jonathan Blake wrote: > Draft número tres, muy expandida: > > Weaponmastery bonuses are replaced by Grand Weaponmastery bonuses, not > added cumulatively (cf. Lone Wolf Club Newsletter 28). > > It seems odd that the Grand Master Discipline of Grand Weaponmastery > with Bow only allows you to add 3 to numbers picked from the Random > Number Table when using a Bow. The above sentence is superfluous - its repeated at the end of the paragraph. > If you have completed previous > adventures, already possess the Magnakai Discipline of Weaponmastery > with Bow, and have reached the rank of Mentora, it seems that you > should already be able to add 5 to numbers picked from the Random > Number Table (i.e. the basic Weaponmastery with Bow bonus of 3 +3 (to make it clearer) > added > to the Mentora bonus of 2 +2 > for all missile weapons). It therefore seems > strange that Grand Weaponmastery has a lower bonus than Weaponmastery. > > There are a number of reasonable ways to resolve this apparent inconsistency. > > The first is to assume that there is no inconsistency. As described, > the Grand Master Discipline Deliverance also seems to lack a > capability that its precursors Curing and Healing both had: the > ability to cure 1 ENDURANCE point per non-combat section of the books. > So there is a precedent for Grand Master Disciplines giving you less > capabilities than previous Disciplines. If this is how you decide to > handle this issue, the bonus of 5 +5 > earned in earlier adventures is just > another hidden loyalty bonus (cf. Lone Wolf Club Newsletter 28). > gah. I would think if your recommending this approach the +3 WM-with-bow bonus is the same as +3 GWM-with-bow c.f. CS bonus for WM vs CS bonus for GWM ie they dont stack. The extra +2 would stack. It seems highly unlikely the author wanted you to be adding +8 to every shot. > Another possibility is that the Grand Weaponmastery bonus of 3 +3 > is a > mistake, an erroneous carryover from the previous books that wasn't > corrected, that should have been a bonus of 5 +5 > . This would parallel the > Grand Weaponmastery 5 point bonus to COMBAT SKILL for other weapons. > This seems a little unlikely given that the author had ample > opportunity to correct this mistake. And +5 to dice roll is a much more powerful bonus than shifting 2-3 columns on the Combat Results table in terms of success :) > All sixteen books in the Grand > Master and New Order series which were published over an eight year > period contain the same bonus of 3. +3 > Certain sections of the books in > the New Order series are even worded as a reminder that the bonus is > 3. +3 > On the other hand, there are numerous sections in the books where > you are directed to add 4 or 5 (cf. XXXXXX). > > Yet another possibility is that the author did not mean for the > Weaponmastery with Bow bonuses to be carried over to the Grand Master > series at all. This also seems unlikely given that other Discipline > bonuses do carry over. > > It is up to you to decide which of these options (or any others) make > the most sense to you. > > As noted earlier, certain sections direct the reader to use different > bonuses when using a Bow, ranging from 3 to 5, if you have Grand > Weaponmastery with Bow. Depending on your feelings about the previous > item, this may be the author adjusting the Grand Weaponmastery bonus > on a case-by-case basis (and therefore this bonus should be used > instead of the standard bonus), an error (and therefore all of these > bonuses should match whatever you decide the Grand Weaponmastery bonus > should be), or an additional bonus on top of the standard bonuses. > Again, it is up to you to decide, but it seems most reasonable to > follow the first option: to replace the Grand Weaponmastery bonus with > whatever bonus is mentioned in that section. > Is this paragraph necessary? Would it not be easier to say: Project Aon recommends replacing the standing +3 bonus with the one mentioned in the section, although if you feel like using your own bonus then it is up to you to decide. > -- > Jon > > ~~~~~~ > Manage your subscription at //www.freelists.org/list/projectaon > > ~~~~~~ Manage your subscription at //www.freelists.org/list/projectaon