[projectaon] Re: Outstanding Errata Sprint (Week 6)
- From: Jonathan Blake <jonathan.blake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:42:16 -0700
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Chris Neilson <crusty.chris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 16:57 -0700, Jonathan Blake wrote:
>> Draft número tres, muy expandida:
>>
>> Weaponmastery bonuses are replaced by Grand Weaponmastery bonuses, not
>> added cumulatively (cf. Lone Wolf Club Newsletter 28).
>>
>> It seems odd that the Grand Master Discipline of Grand Weaponmastery
>> with Bow only allows you to add 3 to numbers picked from the Random
>> Number Table when using a Bow.
>
> The above sentence is superfluous - its repeated at the end of the
> paragraph.
Hmm. How about this:
There seems to be an inconsistency with the Grand Weaponmastery bonus
for numbers picked from the Random Number Table when using a Bow. If
you have completed previous adventures, already possess the Magnakai
Discipline of Weaponmastery with Bow, and have reached the rank of
Mentora, it seems that you should be able to add 5 to numbers picked
from the Random Number Table (i.e. the basic Weaponmastery with Bow
bonus of 3 added to the Mentora bonus of 2 for all missile weapons).
This is actually higher than the Grand Weaponmastery bonus of 3. It
seems odd that Grand Weaponmastery has a lower bonus than
Weaponmastery.
>> If you have completed previous
>> adventures, already possess the Magnakai Discipline of Weaponmastery
>> with Bow, and have reached the rank of Mentora, it seems that you
>> should already be able to add 5 to numbers picked from the Random
>> Number Table (i.e. the basic Weaponmastery with Bow bonus of 3
>
> +3 (to make it clearer)
Tim was right to suggest we avoid the +X notation here. If you look
through the books, that is only used (as far as I found) with CS or EP
(e.g. +2 CS). For stylistic consistency when we're creating footnotes,
we should stick to "bonus of X", "add X", etc.
>> The first is to assume that there is no inconsistency. As described,
>> the Grand Master Discipline Deliverance also seems to lack a
>> capability that its precursors Curing and Healing both had: the
>> ability to cure 1 ENDURANCE point per non-combat section of the books.
>> So there is a precedent for Grand Master Disciplines giving you less
>> capabilities than previous Disciplines. If this is how you decide to
>> handle this issue, the bonus of 5
>> earned in earlier adventures is just
>> another hidden loyalty bonus (cf. Lone Wolf Club Newsletter 28).
>>
>
> gah. I would think if your recommending this approach the +3 WM-with-bow
> bonus is the same as +3 GWM-with-bow c.f. CS bonus for WM vs CS bonus
> for GWM ie they dont stack. The extra +2 would stack. It seems highly
> unlikely the author wanted you to be adding +8 to every shot.
Maybe we should make our intention clearer here: "... another hidden
loyalty bonus (cf. Lone Wolf Club Newsletter 28) which can be used
instead of the Grand Weaponmastery bonus."
>> . This would parallel the
>> Grand Weaponmastery 5 point bonus to COMBAT SKILL for other weapons.
>> This seems a little unlikely given that the author had ample
>> opportunity to correct this mistake.
>
> And +5 to dice roll is a much more powerful bonus than shifting 2-3
> columns on the Combat Results table in terms of success :)
True though the same could be said of the parallel +3 Weaponmastery bonuses.
>> As noted earlier, certain sections direct the reader to use different
>> bonuses when using a Bow, ranging from 3 to 5, if you have Grand
>> Weaponmastery with Bow. Depending on your feelings about the previous
>> item, this may be the author adjusting the Grand Weaponmastery bonus
>> on a case-by-case basis (and therefore this bonus should be used
>> instead of the standard bonus), an error (and therefore all of these
>> bonuses should match whatever you decide the Grand Weaponmastery bonus
>> should be), or an additional bonus on top of the standard bonuses.
>> Again, it is up to you to decide, but it seems most reasonable to
>> follow the first option: to replace the Grand Weaponmastery bonus with
>> whatever bonus is mentioned in that section.
>>
>
> Is this paragraph necessary?
> Would it not be easier to say:
> Project Aon recommends replacing the standing +3 bonus with the one
> mentioned in the section, although if you feel like using your own bonus
> then it is up to you to decide.
The longer paragraph lays out some other (more or less) reasonable
options, informing their choice.
Thanks for the feedback.
--
Jon
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