Re: Maybe I'm Not Such An Old Dog

  • From: Don Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:05:19 -0400

Generally, I agree that the webpage designer should not open a link in a new window. I used to use the concept of opening external links in a new window. I think this is done most of the time to keep users on your site. I have thought it was a good idea in a few cases for a group of links and used the target= attribute and had a message before the group that it would be opened in a new window. If the target= attribute is deprecated, what is the new mechanism? Have they removed this capability altogether?


As a user, I use Tab browsing all of the time! Here are the hotkeys available for IE. I am fairly sure they all work the same for Firefox.
Enter -   open link
Shift + Enter -   open link in new window
Control + Enter -   open link in new tab in background
Control + Shift + Enter -   open link in new tab in foreground
Control + Shift + q -   open context menu near address bar of tabs
Control + F4 -    close tab

When reviewing News Articles in an RSS feed, I will use Control + Enter to open the link in a new tab in the background. Then I can continue to review all of the articles before reading each article of interest. When done reading the article or any tab, press Control + F4 to close the tab. I typically use Control + Shift when opening a link on the same topic, where I need to return to that location on the current page. I use Shift + Enter to open links relating to a different topic, so it remains separate.


*Don Marang*
Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org <http://www.vinuxproject.org/> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter.
-- Dean Kamen

On 7/20/2011 8:48 AM, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
In general, I prefer opening a page in a new tab unless I am sure that I do not want to return to the current page. In that way, I can press Control+F4 in IE (or Control+W in Firefox) to close the new page and return to the previous one, without that page having to reload -- dpending on the HTML and cache settings, that often happens, which takes time and may lose one's position on the page. With IE, press Shift+Enter to open the current page link in a new tab. With Firefox, use Control+Enter.

Jamal

On 7/20/2011 8:26 AM, Homme, James wrote:
Hi Laura,

Yes. I want to know before I hit Enter if it's going to open a new page
in the same tab, or a new page in another tab, because I want to know
whether I'm goint to press Alt Left Arrow to get back, or Control F4 to
close the tab to get back. Usually, though, I try Alt Left, and if that
doesn’t' work, Control F4.

Jim

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*Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:08 AM
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*Subject:* Re: Maybe I'm Not Such An Old Dog

do you mean you want to know before you follow that link? Jaws announces
a new tab or a new browser window after you click on the link. Is that
good enough?

--le

    ----- Original Message -----

    *From:*Homme, James <mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

    *To:*Homme, James <mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

    *Sent:*Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:50 AM

    *Subject:*Maybe I'm Not Such An Old Dog

    Hi,

    I know that popping open new browser windows is against
    accessibility guidelines, but I'm beginning to re-think my aversion
    to doing that, partly because I like the new way browsers open
    windows. I like tabs. I also like that when I return to the previous
    tab, I'm exactly where I left off reading. Recently, with more
    dynamic pages, it has become more and more unreliable to use the
    back button to get back to where I was. I'm even experimenting with
    opening links in a separate browser window on purpose. I'd still
    like to know, though, if a link is about to open in a separate
    window, even if it's for informational reasons. JAWS does a good
    job, though, of telling me that a new tab has opened.

    Jim Homme,

    Usability Services,

    Phone: 412-544-1810.

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