Cy, the hardware might indeed be a problem. Another problem might also be that the thing really has no swap partition, etc. Running something off a cd is a lil tough, & when you're browsing a page as sizeable as cnn, you're putting a lot of stress on the memory, plus the cd's being accessed a lot. Even a small scratch on it can create difficulties. Tell u what I'd do--if u can boot that desktop from a USB, I'd go get me either an 8gb stick or a caddy & put an old ide drive you're not using in it. Put Ubuntu on it, boot it up, & see how that works. The 2nd idea is better because a lot of writes will eventually kill a thumb drive, although I think that situation is improving somewhat. -- Change the world--1 deed at a time Jackie McBride Scripting Classes: http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net For technophobes: www.technophoeb.com