You? Really? Nah! So anyone going to give a shot at helping me with the Winfast PVR? One other thing guys Nigel sent me a site to go to and download e-mail stripper and I deleted it...oops Sorry Nig! Can someone tell me which would be a good one? Pen Besides...If I give a wrong answer , I don't want everyone to know it !!!!! <grin> And I have been known to err a few times. yb shubert Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.