[patriots] Re: Another poster
- From: "Fred Bishop" <fredbiship@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mikegreen247@xxxxxxxxx>, <patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 23:11:36 +0100
Ok you say? We need to demand an end to party politics Great, now to whom
do we make our demands. The Queen, Brussels, ask Obama for regime change or
just shout into the wind and hope someone is listening.
We could ask radical Islam, they seem to have authority but I would not
trust them to act in English interests.
We have Farage the apparent phoney or we could send a letter to Putin. We
could moan and blunder on in the hope that something will turn up.
I would like to see the people of each county put 50p each, raise the £500
deposit and then select an independent English candidate born in that county
to go to Westminster with a mandate to
further the interests of local communities as an absolute but with national
interests as an over-riding factor requiring a majority agreement from the
county MPs.
Cracked it now all I need is a plan of how to do it in the face of a hostile
Jewish/EU/Westminster/Banking cartel that owns the media.
I need to be able to bring this about without provoking a politicised
response from Westminsters militarised police.
Any ideas will be welcome.
That is the utopian ideal and it can be dreamt up by anyone with 5 minutes
to spare. The execution is a bit more difficult.
In the face of that impossibility we have few choices and this is where
idealists separate from the pragmatists.
This is where Mr. Edwards falls down he knows what he dont want and wants
everyone else to agree that it is not what they want.
He has no idea how to change it and not even a pointer to who can change it
so his futile responses lead to a focused aggression against the least of
our enemies.
What we need to do is take best options.
Every government on earth is either party political or a dictatorship. We
have a trumped up Jewish/banker cartel of politicians under a party system.
Our non-democratic party system is subordinate to an EU dictatorship that
does not even bother to give the illusion of democracy.
If we totally discount UKIP then we can pin our hopes on a terminally
damaged BNP or the side-lined impotent English nationalist movement.
We have known for decades that our system is overrun by compromised
self-serving puppets and progressively our system has degenerated over the
whole period.
Mr Edwards and yourself have discounted UKIP as a viable force leaving a
vacancy for someone with a very restricted time schedule before we are
permanently neutralised by ether Brussels or Islam.
Over to anyone with an answer.
Fred
From: patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mike Green
Sent: 05 September 2014 22:05
To: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [patriots] Re: Another poster
Fred,
Party politics will get you absolutely nowhere. The whole point of party
politics is to
provide a means by which political policy can be controlled. Can't you see
how well
it is working? We need to demand an end to party politics and start again,
that is the
only political solution that might just work.
Mike.
On 05/09/14 21:23, Fred Bishop wrote:
Absolutely spot on thinking Andrew.
Farage should come out and say that all Immigration should stop.
Islam needs to be stamped on.
We need to deport all those that do not contribute.
How naïve, we all saw what happened to the BNP and Griffin when they put
their faith in the common sense and understanding of the great British
people. Say it as it is and get splattered.
His supporters could not get a job and anyone that agreed with him
criminalised. The ones that own the media are the only ones that can change
public opinion overnight.
Do you think any small party can suddenly break into power by putting their
cards face up? I have been there, canvassed, lectured given presentations
all of which can be undone by one careless
word and 10 minutes from a BBC news presenter.
Did the EU tell us every policy, did they let us know that it was destined
to become a dictatorship?
Did the Scots that hijacked Westminster tell us that they intended to swamp
us?
They werent that stupid so why assume Farage is.
There is nothing in what Farage says that leads me to believe that he is in
accord with the Lib/Lab/Cons, so why lump him in the same group.
I have asked you before---what is the alternative/ Give me guidance as to
the best way forward. Do we all dive under the bedcovers and bury our heads
shouting all is lost?
If you have not got a clue then it is best to let people that may just be
better informed have a try.
If they fail, then that is the time to pipe up.
Do you have one idea in your bitter head other than to use every opportunity
to vent your frustration.
Ok, so UKIP rejected you, get over it. I am sick and tired of your constant
bitter personal outpourings
You miss no opportunity to denigrate but offer not one constructive comment.
As I said before you need to get on with your life rather than sit like a
dog behind the door waiting for the postmans hand.
You will make yourself ill.
From: Andrew Edwards [mailto:andrew.edwards1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 September 2014 20:00
To: fredbiship@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
'Patriots'; 'ECG'
Subject: Re: [patriots] Re: Another poster
Hi, the answer to that is simple Fred.
On 11.12.13 Farage said, in Europarl:
UKIP is not against immigration. We welcome immigration; we want
immigration.
Farage is often in the news attacking immigration from within the EU, but he
never attacks immigration from outside of the EU!
Note: Of the 532,000 people who came to Britain in the year to last
September, 244,000 of them were non-EU citizens. And being realistic, the
majority of these immigrants will be from alien cultures, ie, Pakistan,
Somalia etc, etc.
Back as far as 2006 Farage was happy to accuse Labour of racism - for
favouring Eastern European immigrants over our traditional(?) immigrants
from the third world. That is the position he still holds today. Farage is
an unashamed multi-culturalist, and his wilfully duplicitous immigration
policy is as deceitful as those of the Westminster Quislings. Like them he
likes to talk about 'balanced immigration'. Sounds good to some, but
consider this, 'balanced immigration', means the end of our own British
culture and identity. How can it not?
IMHO Farage's multiculti, pro Islam posturing, qualifies him very well for
inclusion in the poster.
There's plenty more but that's all I have time for now.
Rgds
A.
On 05/09/2014 17:45, Fred Bishop wrote:
Can I ask why Farage is on the poster as one that has actually caused the
mass influx of EU benefit claimers.
It seems strange and there must be a reason.
I think it is important that people are aware of the fact if proof can be
given that Farage has been actively involved in the influx.
It seems strange to see UKIP being associated with the Labour party and
Brown who have admitted to trolling the world to swamp England.
I think we need documentation if we are to include UKIP as a renegade
anti-English party.
Fred
From: patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jack Lewis
Sent: 05 September 2014 14:31
To: Patriots; ECG
Subject: [patriots] Another poster
Hi All,
Here is another version of the 'Sea Wall' poster which I personally think is
the best of all.
I have to thank Andrew Edwards for the design and the extra cartoons.
Comments please.
Jack
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