[PA28235] Re: mogas
- From: jjhoneck@xxxxxxxxx
- To: pa28235@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:52:41 +0000
Here's a listing of very STC available for our Cherokee 235s:
http://www.pa28.com/cherokee235/cherokeestc1.htm
I'm sure it's listed there.
I don't know what the cost is, but I'll bet Petersen will be glad to tell you!
:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
> What is the cost of the auto gas STC for a 235? What modifications
> are required? I own a share of a 235 and here at SLC 100LL is pushing
> $5 and gas is only $2.80.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Benson
> N9381W
>
> jjhoneck@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > This post is TOTALLY untrue, and ranks as one of the most uninformed posts
> I've
> > ever seen on this group.
> >
> > 1. There is no requirement to use anything higher than 87 octane regular
> > unleaded gas with our Cherokee 235 STC.
> >
> > 2. The low compression O-540 was designed to run on 80 octane avgas -- a
> > fuel
> > that is no longer available. By using 100LL in your plane, you are using a
> gas
> > that it was never designed to use.
> >
> > 3. 100LL has 4 times more lead in it than 80 octane gas. This is why you
> > must
> > lean your engine severely in order to NOT foul spark plugs when you run
> > with
> > 100LL avgas.
> >
> > I'm just astounded when I read misinformation like this. Given all the
> > problems caused by 100LL, how did it EVER develop that some pilots today
> > still
> > believe that 100LL is somehow "better" for your plane than car gas?
> > Nothing
> > (and I mean NOTHING) could be further from the truth.
> >
> > What's even funnier is the statement that it's somehow "better quality"
> > gas.
> > The local HyVee gas station where I fill my transfer tank pumps more gas
> > PER
> > DAY than my airport pumps all YEAR. Let's talk about what happens to
> > aviation
> > gasoline that sits in a big metal tank for 11 months, shall we?
> >
> > Then let's go down the road to discuss FAA approval of mogas in airplanes.
> > This is the same organization that we all bitch about for being so anal
> > that
> > they won't let us use a non-approved light bulb in our plane -- yet, for
> > some
> > reason, people think that they were wild-eyed lunatics when they approved
> > the
> > use of car gas in aircraft? Does anyone REALLY believe that the FAA
> > didn't
> > check mogas thoroughly (beyond thoroughly!) prior to approval?
> >
> > If you want to spend an extra $15 per hour on a fuel that can actually harm
> > your engine (100LL), have at it. But don't spread misinformation like this
> > to
> > other 235 drivers, please.
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993
> > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject:
> > [PA28235] Re: mogas
> > From:
> > PilotKris@xxxxxxx
> > Date:
> > Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:16:19 +0000
> > To:
> > pa28235@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > To:
> > pa28235@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > OK OK,
> >
> > Enough is enough on the MoGas deal.
> >
> > Everyone seams to be forgetting that you MUST follow all of the STC
> > requirements which include using SUPER unleaded gas. That is not that
> > much cheeper than AvGas, around here it's only about $.50 per gallon.
> > You also MUST test the MoGas for alcohol. Who is actually doing that?
> > For EVERY purchase?
> >
> > I know a guy who's so proud of the $ he saves buying MoGas, I then found
> > out he buys it at the cheapest "brand-X" station around. I'd doubt that
> > he's even getting 91 octane.
> >
> > What about the stability of MoGas (especially for those storring large
> > quanities). I've had many tanks of MoGas "go-bad" in cars, boats,
> > motorcycles but never a load of AvGas.
> >
> > There are MANY differences between 100LL and MoGas that go beyond just
> > the octane. Oh, and let's not forget that the differences vary BY DESIGN
> > for the seasons.
> >
> > The biggest reason AvGas costs more than MoGas is quality control. There
> > MUST be a totally dedicated supply chain that extends from the refinery
> > all the way to your airplane. The fuel CANNOT be pumped via a pipeline
> > or even carried in a truck that has ever had MoGas before. Can your
> > local Brand-X station say the same about their "super" unleaded?
> >
> > Oh, and do I even start about varpor-lock problems?
> >
> > I'll gladly pay the extra $7.00 an hour for the extra security provided
> > by AvGas...
> >
> > (Besides, MoGas STINKS!)
> >
> >
>
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