RE: Where should DBA's be placed in an Organization

  • From: "Zelli, Brian" <bzelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:13:07 -0400

I think most people are missing the point.  

 

Where should they be placed in the organization?

 

Easy..............on a pedestal.

 

Brian

 

From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Daniel Fink
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:08 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Where should DBA's be placed in an Organization

 

In most organizations I have worked with, there are 2 types of DBA,
Development and Operations. In some organizations, they are combined.

Development - part of the development/project team. Supports
development/test systems. More focused on design and coding. If you
don't do in house development, this role may be more of Application
support (installing/testing new code from vendor with some test system
support)

Operations - part of the infrastructure/operations team. Supports
production/pseudo-production (staging/qa) systems. More focused on
backup/recovery, tuning.

To be successful, you need to have both types overlap. Dev DBAs are
valuable in production support to understand how the users/application
are interacting with the database system; Ops DBAs have the experience
that provides valuable input in the architecture phase of a system. 

Of course, it is really not a technical issue, it is one of
organizational politics. It is not unusual to see Development and
Operations groups that don't "get along". 

Daniel Fink

        Very non technical question, but I would appreciate people's
views on where the DBA  function should reside. In our organization we
have Infrastructure support and Applications. I personally want to be
with Applications as I feel we have much more to contribute, and if
locked away in infrastructure we dont get to know about projects until
they have been completed. We have a lot of input in Applications from
evaluations of solutions, integration to working with developers. We
should also be at the forefront with issues such as
Datawarehousing/mining etc.. I would appreciate your views and help me
make a case to present to my management. By the way we are in
Infrastructure at the moment.  The DBA role is changing and we need to
be more proactive,  

        thanks

         

        sam 

 

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