The office is a necessity so no one sees you playing Half Life all day. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Connor McDonald" <mcdonald.connor@xxxxxxxxx> Where should they be placed in the organization? Next to the CEO in the hierarchy but in a better office and less responsbilities... :-) -- Connor McDonald =========================== email: connor_mcdonald@xxxxxxxxx web: http://www.oracledba.co.uk "Semper in excremento, sole profundum qui variat"