Oh, I love this topic...:) Doesn't this go back to "Why do it right when I can do it twice"? You will always find those folks that due to a need for instanct gratification or maybe a need to play superman, "look, I came and saved the day AGAIN! Aren't I great!" that will simply duct tape/band aid the problem vs. researching what is actually causing the issue and correct it long term, which often means investing the proper amount of time and effective research to do so? Professionally, if a problem arises a second time, I have a real problem with it... It signifies that I'm not doing my job or I'm not being allocated correctly to perform what needs to be done to correct issues long term. As a DBA, I believe that is a waste of valuable resources that could be allocated more efficiently, aka, "do it right, don't do it twice..." Yes, I know there are emergency situations that arise and demand a short term fix to allow accessibility to a system or resolve an issue asap, but when it starts to become a consistent option for all resolutions, it's not resolving an issue, its a waste of company resources, time and money. This type of technical resource is not an asset, they are a liability in the long run- IMHO Kellyn Pedersen Sr. Database Administrator I-Behavior Inc. http://www.linkedin.com/in/kellynpedersen www.dbakevlar.blogspot.com "Go away before I replace you with a very small and efficient shell script..." --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Andy Klock <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Andy Klock <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Remote DBA To: kjped1313@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx, andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx, cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx, "oracle-l-freelists" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 1:54 PM I also like Matt's glass half full definition of "ticket closer". The ability to prioritize and work tickets is an important (and not easy) skill. However, I've been using that same nickname for years, but in a more derogatory way. There are some DBAs (but this mentality affects developers too) who will take the path of least resistance just to be able to close a ticket. And close many of them. For example: Ticket: Investigate ORA-01653 in UAT Action: alter database datafile '/u01/app/oracle/oradata/important_tablespace01.dbf' resize 1000m; Ticket State: closed But then, only to have this same issue rear is ugly head in PROD the next day. I think a more important skill is to effectively work a low priority ticket to completion so it never becomes a critical one. I also like verbose descriptions of the resolution path and copy/pastes of the exact commands so they can be easily understood and reproducible. I get very worried when I see a resolution that only consists of "Done".