And how well would you have done working from home when the children were 2, 5, and 8? 'Daddy he hit me...'. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Kellyn Pedersen <kjped1313@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > "If the remote has young kids at home, it is likely to be very difficult > for him or her to be able to work effectively unless there is another adult > there to keep an eye on the children." > > This subject always peeks my interest, as I work from home approximately 20 > hrs. per week. I'm a combination of both the ticket closer and the lone > ranger type, appreciating small tasks to finish quick and challenging > mysteries to solve, so this discussion gave great discription of why I have > never had an issue working from home. > > I would have to say that Andrew's comment is a necessity if the children > are young and if teens are home due to after school/out of school > situations, the remote DBA must guarantee that they have an office separate > from the family area to work in. > > My three children, (ages 10, 13 and 15) have the library where their > computer workstations and media area is set up and I avoid the location like > the plague if I'm working. I have my office on a separate floor and as > lucky as I am to have incredibly independent children, their inane banter is > still very distracting, (has never been scientifically proven, but may > disolve braincells, too, which I can't afford... :)) > > As for a positive vote on remote DBA work to the company- I can honestly > say that my manager gets a good 3 or 4 more hours out of me a day than he > would if I were in the office. One, I don't have the commute to and from > the office, which I apply towards working. Two, I have a tendency to lose > track of time and continue to work past 7 or 8pm until one of the kids comes > and tracks me down to tell me I better cook dinner or they are ordering > pizza with one of my credit cards. > Kellyn Pedersen > Sr. Database Administrator > I-Behavior Inc. > http://www.linkedin.com/in/kellynpedersen > www.dbakevlar.blogspot.com > > > > --- On *Mon, 9/27/10, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote: > > > From: Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Remote DBA > To: Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx, "oracle-l-freelists" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 9:20 AM > > > I have worked very well remotely. I have worked with people who should not > work remotely. > > Unfortunately, here in the US, some of the questions that need to be asked > about someone working from home cannot legally be asked. For example, if > someone is working from home, you really need to know who else is in the > house. If the remote has young kids at home, it is likely to be very > difficult for him or her to be able to work effectively unless there is > another adult there to keep an eye on the children. > > > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Goulet, Richard < > Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > Alan, > > Well, I will agree with others on the list that working from home > takes a person with very good time management skills and discipline. I've > done the work from home thing and still do when Mother Nature makes a real > mess up here in the winter and it's hard to concentrate on work when home > projects beckon or the cat decides she wants to sleep on your lap. I do it, > but their not exactly my most productive days. If your going to hire people > who will be remotely located like this it's best to have someone manage them > who is familiar with the concept and how to manage it. I've worked for a > manager who didn't know how to do that, mandated that I work from home at > least 2 days a week, and made me miserable in the process never mind the > customer that I was actually working for. > > As to hiring someone you've never personally met, sure. We've two in > Hyderabad right now, one of which no one here has ever met in person. Damn > good technician too. And yes we did verify references and work experience. > If you don't want to do that then why are you bothering with an interview?? > Once saw a resume for an individual who claimed to have played 2 seasons > with the Boston Celtics. Problem was that he was about 4 foot 6 inches. > Didn't exactly pass the smoke test, now does it. > > As for hiring or contracting with a service provider your basically > hiring a consultant who does DBA services. The more important point here is > what does the statement of work say and how do the service providers > references stack up. Good people sometimes work for poor providers which > can make for a bad experience and a poorly written SOW is not the provider's > problem. > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA/NA Team Lead > PAREXEL International > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* > oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto: > oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] > *On Behalf Of *Guillermo Alan Bort > *Sent:* Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:27 PM > > *To:* oracle-l-freelists > *Subject:* Remote DBA > > Hi List, > > I've been reading a lot about remote DBA services, these appear to be > companies based on different locations that provide customers with DBA > services while having all the DBAs physically in one location (or a limited > number of locations). These services are usually hired by companies whose > primary focus isn't IT. > > My question now is...would this work in reverse? Having several DBAs > working out of their own homes in whatever city or country they want for a > single company (or for one of the remote DBA services)? I understand the > complexities of having people without Green Cards or working VISAS working > for US based companies, even if they are now physically in the US. > > This one may be for recruiters or decision makers: Would you hire > somebody you've never met (or met only by phone) who lives in another > country (worst case) and whose experience you can't verify if they asked for > half of what an on-site DBA would? > > Thanks in advance > Alan.- > > > > > -- > Andrew W. Kerber > > 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.' > > > -- Andrew W. Kerber 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'