Re: Oracle and DST changes
- From: "Mark Strickland" <strickland.mark@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:41:23 -0800
I just applied the patch in a dev/test environment and the databases picked
up the new timezone rules without bouncing them. I'm still going to bounce
the databases for good measure, but it doesn't appear necessary.
10.1.0.5on Solaris 9.
Mark Strickland
On 1/26/07, Sam Bootsma <sbootsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
According to Oracle FAQ#223 in Metalink Note 402742.1, the timezone
files are picked up whenever database or client software is started up.
So the act of stopping and restarting sqlplus would cause the files to
be re-read. Here is the FAQ:
223. Is any relinking needed after the patches are applied?
No.
The time zone file patch only gives you 2 new time zone files. These are
picked up automatically by the database or client software the next time
they start up.
The JVM patch requires the JVM in the database to be updated after the
patch has been installed, but this is a action "inside" the database.
For details refer to the readme files of the JVM patches.
Sam Bootsma
Oracle Database Administrator
Information Technology Services
George Brown College
Phone: 416-415-5000 x4933
Fax: 416-415-4836
E-mail: sbootsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: RE: Oracle and DST changes
This is crazy. It looks like a new session gets the new information.
I connect to the database with the old files in place in the zoneinfo
directory. I ran the script and the results were wrong.
I loaded the new files without disconnecting from sqlplus and ran the
script again. The results were wrong.
I restarted sqlplus and ran the script and the results were correct.
It looks like a new database session reads the zoneinfo files?
Another great testing job from Oracle support. At least they are
consistent.
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Subject: RE: Oracle and DST changes
Yes, I did notice the same thing. Without restarting the instance, I
was able to see the updated results.
Thanks
Chandra
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Subject: RE: Oracle and DST changes
That would be great to no have to restart each database.
Anyone else do this and found that a restart is not necessary?
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Subject: Re: Oracle and DST changes
This actually turns out not to be true. I just applied the patch to a
test db without shutting down and when I ran the confirmation sql I got
the updated results:
SQL> select to_timestamp_tz('20070311 00:00:00 US/EASTERN','YYYYMMDD
HH24:MI:SS TZR') + to_dsinterval('0 08:00:00') TEST from dual;
TEST
------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
11-MAR-07 09.00.00.000000000 AM US/EASTERN
(solaris 64-bit/oracle 10.1.0.4)
Joe
Allen, Brandon wrote:
It also confirms that the timezone files are in
> fact only read at startup, so a restart is necessary for the new rules
> to take effect.
>
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According to Oracle FAQ#223 in Metalink Note 402742.1, the timezone files are picked up whenever database or client software is started up. So the act of stopping and restarting sqlplus would cause the files to be re-read. Here is the FAQ: 223. Is any relinking needed after the patches are applied? No. The time zone file patch only gives you 2 new time zone files. These are picked up automatically by the database or client software the next time they start up. The JVM patch requires the JVM in the database to be updated after the patch has been installed, but this is a action "inside" the database. For details refer to the readme files of the JVM patches. Sam Bootsma Oracle Database Administrator Information Technology Services George Brown College Phone: 416-415-5000 x4933 Fax: 416-415-4836 E-mail: sbootsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR) Sent: January 26, 2007 7:49 AM To: Chandra.Pabba@xxxxxxx; nancy.malpass@xxxxxxxxxxxx; joseph.armstrong-champ@xxxxxxxxx; Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle and DST changes This is crazy. It looks like a new session gets the new information. I connect to the database with the old files in place in the zoneinfo directory. I ran the script and the results were wrong. I loaded the new files without disconnecting from sqlplus and ran the script again. The results were wrong. I restarted sqlplus and ran the script and the results were correct. It looks like a new database session reads the zoneinfo files? Another great testing job from Oracle support. At least they are consistent. -------------------------------------------------------- This transmission may contain confidential, proprietary, or privileged information which is intended solely for use by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, copying or distribution of this transmission or its attachments is strictly prohibited. In addition, unauthorized access to this transmission may violate federal or State law, including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1985. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the transmission and its attachments. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pabba, Chandra Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:49 PM To: nancy.malpass@xxxxxxxxxxxx; joseph.armstrong-champ@xxxxxxxxx; Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR); oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle and DST changes Yes, I did notice the same thing. Without restarting the instance, I was able to see the updated results. Thanks Chandra -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Malpass, Nancy Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:45 PM To: joseph.armstrong-champ@xxxxxxxxx; Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR); oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle and DST changes That would be great to no have to restart each database. Anyone else do this and found that a restart is not necessary? -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Armstrong-Champ Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:32 PM To: Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR); oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Oracle and DST changes This actually turns out not to be true. I just applied the patch to a test db without shutting down and when I ran the confirmation sql I got the updated results: SQL> select to_timestamp_tz('20070311 00:00:00 US/EASTERN','YYYYMMDD HH24:MI:SS TZR') + to_dsinterval('0 08:00:00') TEST from dual; TEST ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- 11-MAR-07 09.00.00.000000000 AM US/EASTERN (solaris 64-bit/oracle 10.1.0.4) Joe Allen, Brandon wrote: It also confirms that the timezone files are in > fact only read at startup, so a restart is necessary for the new rules > to take effect. > -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l
- Re: Oracle and DST changes
- From: Mark Strickland
- RE: Oracle and DST changes
- From: Mercadante, Thomas F \(LABOR\)
- RE: Oracle and DST changes
- From: Sam Bootsma