Brandon, I saw that and reran the utltzuv2.sql file against my 10g database (10.2.0.2) and it reports nothing to be concerned about. How's that for inconsistency? Just same-ol-same-ol from Oracle-Land. Passive/Aggressive software development and support. What a mess. Tom -------------------------------------------------------- This transmission may contain confidential, proprietary, or privileged information which is intended solely for use by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, copying or distribution of this transmission or its attachments is strictly prohibited. In addition, unauthorized access to this transmission may violate federal or State law, including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1985. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the transmission and its attachments. ________________________________ From: Allen, Brandon [mailto:Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:52 AM To: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR); gkatteri@xxxxxxxxxxx; Mark Strickland; John.Fedock@xxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle and DST changes Tom, not sure if you saw this post yesterday, but Metalink 359145.1 seems to say that you do need to patch 10g even if you're not using the TZ data types: "When any data, either in the dictionary or in the user data or in the usage of time zones in PL/SQL, uses the affected time zones, then the patch is needed." I also checked my 10.2.0.2 dictionary and there are 149 columns using the TZ data types. Please let me know if I'm missing something though, because I'd rather not install the patch if I don't have to. Thanks, Brandon ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR) I also agree about not patching anything if I'm not using Time Zone data types. We only have one 10.2.0.2 database and I'm not too worried about it. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.