Re: No to SQL? Anti-database movement gains steam

  • From: Cary Millsap <cary.millsap@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: martin.a.berger@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:02:42 -0500

After listening to Chris Date at the symposium last March, I'm more
convinced than ever that if (a) SQL were truly relational and (b) people
actually adhered to relational design principles, there would be a far
greater proportion of correctly-functioning high-speed applications in the
world today.

Cary Millsap
Method R Corporation
http://method-r.com


On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Martin Berger <martin.a.berger@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> As all the time, there is more than one way to view it.
> Maybe you can call The Helsinki Declaration:
>
> http://thehelsinkideclaration.blogspot.com/2009/03/helsinki-declaration-observation-1.html
> as a kind of answer.
>
> In fact, I personally see no need to replace an 'ordinary' RDBMS, in fact,
> I think they should be starched in their formal constraints.
>
> There is really enough space for other kinds of databases (or whatever you
> call them) but most of them are not that widely useable.
>
> br
>  Martin
>
>
> Am 02.07.2009 um 20:47 schrieb Sunil Kanderi:
>
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9135086
> Interesting article in ComputerWorld about the NoSQL movement. Most of my
> DBA experience has been primarily related to large ERP applications and
> recently had to start supporting Java Development environment and it almost
> feels like a totally different world. Looking at ORM tools like Hibernate,
> which is very popular with Java crowd, it baffles me as to how little SQL
> one really needs to know to get by with and their general aversion to
> understanding SQL. At this point these NoSQL alternatives do not seem to
> apply to the enterprises, but mostly to Web 2.0 based applications. However
> things could change and was curious to know what the broader Oracle
> community thinks about these alternatives especially with Cloud computing
> and databases on the cloud, fast catching on within the enterprises. At my
> work place, we are migrating all out hardware/database infrastructure to a
> hosted platform and I wouldn't be surprised if within the next three years
> all our applications being totally supported on a cloud platform. This will
> undoubtedly have a big impact on the infrastructure folks, be it OS/hardware
> or Database.
>
> Here is a good discussion on the article sited above.
>
> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=683807
>
>
> Best,
> Sunil.
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/sunilkanderi
>
>
>

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