Hi Ron That's why I am pleased that my milling machines use R8 collets, which are relatively cheap. I also use R8 arbours with soft blank ends and bore these to size, with an Allen screw in the side, to engage a flat on the endmill - a free-hand ground flat will do. These are also available complete in a series of bores. I use ER25 collets on my little lathe, and have an R8 adapter for these. By an unusual serendipity, my ancient horizontal milling machine also uses R8, so that I can use them on it and also on my VMC vertical mill. They are much more secure than 2 or 3 MT, and far easier to eject.. Cheers! Hubert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Head" <ron.head@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:53 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: milling chuck > Hi Jem > The beauty of Myford collets is that they don't need a chuck. If your D-W > machine has been built 'to spec' it will have a Myford nose, in which case > all you need is a Myford closing ring (easy enough to pick up secondhand). > > Myford have recently started making the collets again. They had them on > their stand at Ascot, but they're pretty pricey - around GBP22 each, I > seem to recall. The last time I bought some secondhand ones they cost me > around GBP15 each. They don't appear very often on the secondhand market, > and the dealers know it. > > Regards > Ron > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.