Hi Peter and All, Being nosey,what were you doing at the Plymouth track?Is it one of your regular haunts? Regards Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Sheppard" <peter.sheppard@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:02 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Couplings > We had a case at the Plymouth track with a runaway. Again we were > fortunate that this was an electric loco that derailed at the first curve. > > After that incident, as Track Marshall I updated the Risk Assessment (sorry > for swearing) and we brought into use a new rule that stated that > locomotives and driving trucks must be attached by two separate and > independent means. (That is they could share the same buffer beam etc, but > not the same fixing. > > The Hunslet I'm building has a centre "pin" type coupling to the driving > truck, but also has a chain connection either side. > > With regard to couplings to passenger trucks in more general terms, I > favour the centre pin, with multi-height options for the coupling bar. My > stock is made to the 7.25" guidance (and that where the centre position is) > but not, but not everybody's is! > > Cheers > > Peter > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Sheppard BSc (Hons) CEng FIEE FIRSE FSaRS > Principal Consultant > Lloyd's Register Rail Limited > 5th Floor, 37-39 Corn Street > Bristol BS1 1HT > > T: 0117 929 4443 > F: 0117 929 4554 > M: 07760 167 617 > E: peter.sheppard@xxxxxxxxxx > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter J. Cathcart [SMTP:peter.cathcart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:46 PM > To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Couplings > > Alan > > We use bars, as probably most clubs do. As for pins, we have a set of pins > > with a spring semi-circle which is quite vicious if you're not careful. It > > means, however, that once the pin is in it simply can't bounce out. This > is > critical. All locos are meant to be checked by the loco super for the day > to make sure the couplings are totally secure. > > We have a video taken probably 20 years ago, by pure fluke, of a loco on > the > track with the loco parting from its driving carriage. We play it > occasionally on club nights and it brings tears to the eyes! On the more > serious side it made us realise what can happen and that is why we sorted > suitable pins. > > Hilarity is the mother of invention. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alanjstepney" <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:11 PM > Subject: [modeleng] Couplings > > > It seems that theree is no universal, or even generally agreed, standard > for > the couplings between loco (tender) and driving trolley, and trolley and > passenger cars. > > The most common one that I have seen is the flat bar, with pin dropping in > hole in bar and into brackets fixed to each vehicle. > However, the size of bar and pin seems to vary. > > Has anyone any information on couplings? > What does your club use? > > What is used in other countries? > > > alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > www.alanstepney.info > Model Engineering, Steam Engine, and Railway technical pages. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.