[modeleng] Re: Couplings
- From: "Clif Walker" <clif.gwr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:58:32 -0000
Hi Peter,
I have sometimes thought about making it up to Plymouth as effectively I do
not have a club down here at the bottom end of Cornwall.(There is a club but
it not really worth the time of day)The only thing that it is interested in
is how to make more profit,the track is lousy,unloading facilities non
existent and the only thing they want you to do is keep going round giving
rides.
I haven't taken a loco or been to the club for six years since the Club
President balled me out for not giving rides. I was trying to run in a brand
new loco which had never been steamed before, had the usual teething
problems and I didn't want to give rides at the time.His comments were "when
I by a new car I take people in it so if you wont take passengers with a
new engine you must be incompetent"
Yes it was my 14XX for sale but not even a sniff.
I enjoy building locos and the Winson was a good excercise in frustration
and to see what problems people had with them.
In the end it came came out a nice looking loco and runs well (for my club
in Derby where all engines should be red to say it looked good it must be
good).
On the last outing it had around my track it ran continiously for two hours
with only stops for water and sorting the fire out so it can't be that bad.
Met a friend of yours the other week Dave Bliss.
Regards
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Sheppard" <peter.sheppard@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:28 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: Couplings
> Cliff,
>
> I used to work for ABB/Adtranz/Bombardier at Estover in Plymouth and lived
> in Ivybridge. Plymouth Miniature Steam was my local club and I spent 4
> very happy years there, latterly as the "Track Marshall" who was
> responsible for the safety of the railway during public running days.
>
> In Trowbridge, I am now about 2 hours away from Plymouth. If I hadn't
been
> so busy with Lackham this year I had hoped to get down there and have a
> play with my engines on the Plymouth track.
>
> Maybe next year with the new Hunslet.
>
> Have you sold your 14xx yet (it was yours for sale wasn't it?)
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clif Walker [SMTP:clif.gwr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:02 PM
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Couplings
>
> Hi Peter and All,
>
> Being nosey,what were you doing at the Plymouth track?Is it one of your
> regular haunts?
>
> Regards
>
> Clif
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Sheppard" <peter.sheppard@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:02 AM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Couplings
>
>
> > We had a case at the Plymouth track with a runaway. Again we were
> > fortunate that this was an electric loco that derailed at the first
> curve.
> >
> > After that incident, as Track Marshall I updated the Risk Assessment
> (sorry
> > for swearing) and we brought into use a new rule that stated that
> > locomotives and driving trucks must be attached by two separate and
> > independent means. (That is they could share the same buffer beam etc,
> but
> > not the same fixing.
> >
> > The Hunslet I'm building has a centre "pin" type coupling to the driving
> > truck, but also has a chain connection either side.
> >
> > With regard to couplings to passenger trucks in more general terms, I
> > favour the centre pin, with multi-height options for the coupling bar.
> My
> > stock is made to the 7.25" guidance (and that where the centre position
> is)
> > but not, but not everybody's is!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Peter Sheppard BSc (Hons) CEng FIEE FIRSE FSaRS
> > Principal Consultant
> > Lloyd's Register Rail Limited
> > 5th Floor, 37-39 Corn Street
> > Bristol BS1 1HT
> >
> > T: 0117 929 4443
> > F: 0117 929 4554
> > M: 07760 167 617
> > E: peter.sheppard@xxxxxxxxxx
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter J. Cathcart [SMTP:peter.cathcart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:46 PM
> > To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Couplings
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > We use bars, as probably most clubs do. As for pins, we have a set of
> pins
> >
> > with a spring semi-circle which is quite vicious if you're not careful.
> It
> >
> > means, however, that once the pin is in it simply can't bounce out.
This
> > is
> > critical. All locos are meant to be checked by the loco super for the
> day
> > to make sure the couplings are totally secure.
> >
> > We have a video taken probably 20 years ago, by pure fluke, of a loco on
> > the
> > track with the loco parting from its driving carriage. We play it
> > occasionally on club nights and it brings tears to the eyes! On the
more
> > serious side it made us realise what can happen and that is why we
sorted
> > suitable pins.
> >
> > Hilarity is the mother of invention.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "alanjstepney" <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:11 PM
> > Subject: [modeleng] Couplings
> >
> >
> > It seems that theree is no universal, or even generally agreed, standard
> > for
> > the couplings between loco (tender) and driving trolley, and trolley and
> > passenger cars.
> >
> > The most common one that I have seen is the flat bar, with pin dropping
> in
> > hole in bar and into brackets fixed to each vehicle.
> > However, the size of bar and pin seems to vary.
> >
> > Has anyone any information on couplings?
> > What does your club use?
> >
> > What is used in other countries?
> >
> >
> > alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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