[mac4theblind] Re: created a bootable installer of Mountain Lion with SuperDuper
- From: Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx the blind" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 11:05:49 +0000
first thing’s first. before considering mavericks, I’d consider a ram upgrade
because mavericks will need a bit more ram between OS, Voiceover and your
applications to perform at it’s best. If I remember right, you’re in the UK, if
that’s right then please visit www.crucial.com/uk. there’s a system checker
plugin that checks your mac to see what RAM you’re using and what your rig can
take as a maximum. I trust Crucial completely and their service and support
with me has been great for a long time. very well priced ram as well for macs.
With reference building partitions on your macintosh HD, you can actually do a
partition setup using strangely enough… Bootcamp utility. How you do it is
this, you make bootcamp think you’re about to install windows so you divide
your primary partition into 2 and there’s a restore point hidden in the
instruction code. before bootcamp starts the installer for windows, quit. now
go to disk utility, you should now have a drive the size you want with
bootcamp. as you’re using a 500gb 5400rpm drive, I’d make a 100gb partition for
mavericks as a test environment. when you’re in disk utility and you see the
partition for bootcamp, select that partition and reformat it as OS X extended
Journaled and rename it Mavericks. a bit of an accessible workaround but it
works. I’ve tried it as a back door method before and it works, but as an admin
tech, I know disk utility like a service engineer knows it.
sorry if I’m not clear. I’m just a little rough these days, not feeling at my
best and taking on so many support queries about mavericks drives me mad. lol
anyway. hope it works.
lew
On 3 Nov 2013, at 10:44 am, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Lew, as all ways, wonderful detailed information. I will digest it at my
> own pace.
> If i were to not like Mavericks, at this present time and wanted to delete
> the 2nd created partition for a testing environment for the new OS, how would
> I delete, remove and recover my disc space from the created partition?
> I think you touched on it at the end of your instructions but if you could
> explain in a bit more detail how to restore the disc space get rid of
> Mavericks from the 2nd partition and have one whole disc drive working again.
>
> P.S.
> Just so you know I have a 13 inch Mac Book Pro with 4GB of RAM and the hard
> drive is 500GB Going by disc utility, I think the make is Toshiba at least
> that's what Voiceover is telling me after its announced the 500GB capacity.
>
> I hope this helps On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:51, Edward Lewis Redfern
> <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Depending on the size of your hard drive which would be useful to know.
>>
>> In Disk utility, if you’re going to create a 2nd bootable partition, you
>> first interact with “Selected Disks” pane. A drive layout in this pane is as
>> such that the identifier of the drive (drive bus) is above the partition(s)
>> created on the drive.
>>
>> in this instance, you select the identifier above “Macintosh HD” which is
>> usually the size of drive or make of drive.
>>
>> now tab to the “Partition” tab and in this window, there’s a partition
>> layout pane. for sighted users, this is a graphical representation of the
>> sizes of partitions created.
>>
>> To add a partition, tab to the “Add Partition” Button, (identified as a +
>> button for V.I. users) This now splits the master drive into two. now you
>> need to interact with the partition window, this is identified in Voiceover
>> as the name of the current partition created, you’ll also find after adding
>> a partition a duplicate of Macintosh HD but this time it’s named Macintosh
>> HD 2. this can be resized and renamed.. Select Macintosh HD 2 and size the
>> partition to approx 60gb as a test only environment and name it Mavericks.
>> Apply changes to the partition map by tabbing to “Apply.
>>
>> if you’ve created a bootable installer, you can reboot your mac with the
>> installer, run mavericks, but this time, you select the mavericks partition
>> you’ve just created and it will install to it.
>>
>> Do please note that when booting, your mac will now default boot to the new
>> mavericks partition, unless you’ve configured it elsewhere. to change the
>> boot sequence of drives, you can go to Startup Disk in System preferences
>> and select Macintosh HD if you’re still using mountain lion, or Mavericks
>> partition if you’re going to do it this way.
>>
>> At any time, you can erase the mavericks partition but the only way of
>> recovering the lost partition back to your Macintosh HD is by holding
>> Command R on boot, use disk utility to resize the “Macintosh HD partition
>> back to it’s full size.
>>
>> lew
>>
>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:27 am, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lew, how would I create a disc partition with Voiceover? I kinda like
>>> the idea of making a test of Mavericks and then if it wasn't for me
>>> trashing it afterwards.
>>> Just want to learn about all my different options before going ahead.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 17:42, Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK. when I say format the HDD. select Macintosh HD in disk utility when
>>>> you boot into the installer. you get a window with 4 options. you only
>>>> need to concern yourself with 2. Disk Utility, and install OS X Mountain
>>>> Lion.
>>>>
>>>> Run disk utility, go to the Selected Disks Window and select Micontosh HD.
>>>> tab to the Erase Tab and there is a pull down menu. you need to select OS
>>>> X extended Journaled. then ensure your drive is named Macintosh HD unless
>>>> you’ve a name you like for the volume. then tab to the Erase button. it
>>>> will ask you to confirm to do so. Continue.
>>>>
>>>> once completed quit disk utility. Command Q lol
>>>>
>>>> now start the install OS X process. you’ll be asked to agree to terms, etc
>>>> then select the drive to install to. after that, let it do it’s thing and
>>>> away you go.
>>>>
>>>> lew.
>>>>
>>>> P.S: I advise clean installs only with regards Mavericks due to
>>>> compatibility issues.
>>>>
>>>> I have tested and confirmed on a number of workstations in test mode a
>>>> series of errors now reported to apple where certain installer conflicts
>>>> occur, this is where, in an upgrade instance, your mac can become bogged
>>>> down, conflict and require not only a disk permissions repair and disk
>>>> repair but also a lot of reworking. If you’re going to use mavericks, I
>>>> advise a clean install, or if you’re going to test it, make a partition on
>>>> your Macintosh HD and set a partition for about 60gb or so. then install
>>>> mavericks to that as a test point. if you’re not happy, you can dump and
>>>> recover your space to the HDD.
>>>>
>>>> lew
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 05:31 pm, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Edward, or is it Lew I'm not sure which. lol
>>>>> Don't worry, I'll definitely make sure I'll have a backup of all my
>>>>> documents and alike before going ahead.
>>>>> A couple of things if I may ask. When you say format the HD do you mean
>>>>> the Macintosh hard drive? Just to be clear and secondly, what formats
>>>>> choices are there to choose from I'm just cureious and I'm making an
>>>>> educated guess but I bet my money on that it will be Mac OSX extended
>>>>> gernaled to format the hard drive too.
>>>>>
>>>>> My primary purpose of making the backup of ML is because I want to go to
>>>>> the Mavericks root by just the update method. Now, I know you advise
>>>>> people to go through the clean install path but I just want to update and
>>>>> if anything is wrong with Mavericks or I find it too buggy with Voiceover
>>>>> with my ML backup would I be able to successfully downgrade back to
>>>>> Mountain Lion? If so, how would one do this assuming I've made my ML
>>>>> bootable USB 8GB Sea-Gate flash drive that I brought the other day. From
>>>>> Argos by the way. lol
>>>>> I've never done a clean install or re-install of a previous Mac OS before
>>>>> so it is all new to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 17:05, Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi daniel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> first off, ensure you’ve backed up everything. glad that SuperDuper
>>>>>> works for you. it’s a useful product and part of my toolbox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> open up system preferences and go to Startup Disk. you should see your
>>>>>> new bootable volume listed. if so, select it and tab to restart. now you
>>>>>> can continue reformatting your HDD using disk utility within the
>>>>>> installer then installing your OS. it is important to format the HDD
>>>>>> because otherwise you will end up with corrupt data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lew
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 04:50 pm, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all, I am please to report that I think I've managed to create a
>>>>>>> bootable Mountain Lion with the release I purchased last year with my
>>>>>>> Apple ID that I made a backup to my external hard drive with.
>>>>>>> I did this with SuperDuper and WOW!!! It was like so easy to do! Had a
>>>>>>> bit of trouble understanding what was to come 1st the source or the
>>>>>>> location. I finally figured it out with a youtube video though. lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't know what to do after this though so any guidance forth coming
>>>>>>> would be fantastic but I'm glad that I've gotten the 1st step
>>>>>>> completed! :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope everyone had a fabulous halloween!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel ************
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