[mac4theblind] Re: created a bootable installer of Mountain Lion with SuperDuper
- From: Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx the blind" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 11:13:50 +0000
addendum. new version of bootcamp manager does not support this advised
principle without an install disk for windows present. it used to be the case
you could create a volume and undo step.
oops
lew
On 3 Nov 2013, at 11:05 am, Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> first thing’s first. before considering mavericks, I’d consider a ram upgrade
> because mavericks will need a bit more ram between OS, Voiceover and your
> applications to perform at it’s best. If I remember right, you’re in the UK,
> if that’s right then please visit www.crucial.com/uk. there’s a system
> checker plugin that checks your mac to see what RAM you’re using and what
> your rig can take as a maximum. I trust Crucial completely and their service
> and support with me has been great for a long time. very well priced ram as
> well for macs.
>
> With reference building partitions on your macintosh HD, you can actually do
> a partition setup using strangely enough… Bootcamp utility. How you do it is
> this, you make bootcamp think you’re about to install windows so you divide
> your primary partition into 2 and there’s a restore point hidden in the
> instruction code. before bootcamp starts the installer for windows, quit. now
> go to disk utility, you should now have a drive the size you want with
> bootcamp. as you’re using a 500gb 5400rpm drive, I’d make a 100gb partition
> for mavericks as a test environment. when you’re in disk utility and you see
> the partition for bootcamp, select that partition and reformat it as OS X
> extended Journaled and rename it Mavericks. a bit of an accessible workaround
> but it works. I’ve tried it as a back door method before and it works, but as
> an admin tech, I know disk utility like a service engineer knows it.
>
> sorry if I’m not clear. I’m just a little rough these days, not feeling at my
> best and taking on so many support queries about mavericks drives me mad. lol
>
> anyway. hope it works.
>
> lew
>
> On 3 Nov 2013, at 10:44 am, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lew, as all ways, wonderful detailed information. I will digest it at my
>> own pace.
>> If i were to not like Mavericks, at this present time and wanted to delete
>> the 2nd created partition for a testing environment for the new OS, how
>> would I delete, remove and recover my disc space from the created partition?
>> I think you touched on it at the end of your instructions but if you could
>> explain in a bit more detail how to restore the disc space get rid of
>> Mavericks from the 2nd partition and have one whole disc drive working again.
>>
>> P.S.
>> Just so you know I have a 13 inch Mac Book Pro with 4GB of RAM and the hard
>> drive is 500GB Going by disc utility, I think the make is Toshiba at least
>> that's what Voiceover is telling me after its announced the 500GB capacity.
>>
>> I hope this helps On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:51, Edward Lewis Redfern
>> <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Depending on the size of your hard drive which would be useful to know.
>>>
>>> In Disk utility, if you’re going to create a 2nd bootable partition, you
>>> first interact with “Selected Disks” pane. A drive layout in this pane is
>>> as such that the identifier of the drive (drive bus) is above the
>>> partition(s) created on the drive.
>>>
>>> in this instance, you select the identifier above “Macintosh HD” which is
>>> usually the size of drive or make of drive.
>>>
>>> now tab to the “Partition” tab and in this window, there’s a partition
>>> layout pane. for sighted users, this is a graphical representation of the
>>> sizes of partitions created.
>>>
>>> To add a partition, tab to the “Add Partition” Button, (identified as a +
>>> button for V.I. users) This now splits the master drive into two. now you
>>> need to interact with the partition window, this is identified in Voiceover
>>> as the name of the current partition created, you’ll also find after adding
>>> a partition a duplicate of Macintosh HD but this time it’s named Macintosh
>>> HD 2. this can be resized and renamed.. Select Macintosh HD 2 and size the
>>> partition to approx 60gb as a test only environment and name it Mavericks.
>>> Apply changes to the partition map by tabbing to “Apply.
>>>
>>> if you’ve created a bootable installer, you can reboot your mac with the
>>> installer, run mavericks, but this time, you select the mavericks partition
>>> you’ve just created and it will install to it.
>>>
>>> Do please note that when booting, your mac will now default boot to the new
>>> mavericks partition, unless you’ve configured it elsewhere. to change the
>>> boot sequence of drives, you can go to Startup Disk in System preferences
>>> and select Macintosh HD if you’re still using mountain lion, or Mavericks
>>> partition if you’re going to do it this way.
>>>
>>> At any time, you can erase the mavericks partition but the only way of
>>> recovering the lost partition back to your Macintosh HD is by holding
>>> Command R on boot, use disk utility to resize the “Macintosh HD partition
>>> back to it’s full size.
>>>
>>> lew
>>>
>>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:27 am, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lew, how would I create a disc partition with Voiceover? I kinda like
>>>> the idea of making a test of Mavericks and then if it wasn't for me
>>>> trashing it afterwards.
>>>> Just want to learn about all my different options before going ahead.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 17:42, Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK. when I say format the HDD. select Macintosh HD in disk utility when
>>>>> you boot into the installer. you get a window with 4 options. you only
>>>>> need to concern yourself with 2. Disk Utility, and install OS X Mountain
>>>>> Lion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Run disk utility, go to the Selected Disks Window and select Micontosh
>>>>> HD. tab to the Erase Tab and there is a pull down menu. you need to
>>>>> select OS X extended Journaled. then ensure your drive is named Macintosh
>>>>> HD unless you’ve a name you like for the volume. then tab to the Erase
>>>>> button. it will ask you to confirm to do so. Continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> once completed quit disk utility. Command Q lol
>>>>>
>>>>> now start the install OS X process. you’ll be asked to agree to terms,
>>>>> etc then select the drive to install to. after that, let it do it’s thing
>>>>> and away you go.
>>>>>
>>>>> lew.
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S: I advise clean installs only with regards Mavericks due to
>>>>> compatibility issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tested and confirmed on a number of workstations in test mode a
>>>>> series of errors now reported to apple where certain installer conflicts
>>>>> occur, this is where, in an upgrade instance, your mac can become bogged
>>>>> down, conflict and require not only a disk permissions repair and disk
>>>>> repair but also a lot of reworking. If you’re going to use mavericks, I
>>>>> advise a clean install, or if you’re going to test it, make a partition
>>>>> on your Macintosh HD and set a partition for about 60gb or so. then
>>>>> install mavericks to that as a test point. if you’re not happy, you can
>>>>> dump and recover your space to the HDD.
>>>>>
>>>>> lew
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 05:31 pm, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Edward, or is it Lew I'm not sure which. lol
>>>>>> Don't worry, I'll definitely make sure I'll have a backup of all my
>>>>>> documents and alike before going ahead.
>>>>>> A couple of things if I may ask. When you say format the HD do you mean
>>>>>> the Macintosh hard drive? Just to be clear and secondly, what formats
>>>>>> choices are there to choose from I'm just cureious and I'm making an
>>>>>> educated guess but I bet my money on that it will be Mac OSX extended
>>>>>> gernaled to format the hard drive too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My primary purpose of making the backup of ML is because I want to go to
>>>>>> the Mavericks root by just the update method. Now, I know you advise
>>>>>> people to go through the clean install path but I just want to update
>>>>>> and if anything is wrong with Mavericks or I find it too buggy with
>>>>>> Voiceover with my ML backup would I be able to successfully downgrade
>>>>>> back to Mountain Lion? If so, how would one do this assuming I've made
>>>>>> my ML bootable USB 8GB Sea-Gate flash drive that I brought the other
>>>>>> day. From Argos by the way. lol
>>>>>> I've never done a clean install or re-install of a previous Mac OS
>>>>>> before so it is all new to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 17:05, Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi daniel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> first off, ensure you’ve backed up everything. glad that SuperDuper
>>>>>>> works for you. it’s a useful product and part of my toolbox.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> open up system preferences and go to Startup Disk. you should see your
>>>>>>> new bootable volume listed. if so, select it and tab to restart. now
>>>>>>> you can continue reformatting your HDD using disk utility within the
>>>>>>> installer then installing your OS. it is important to format the HDD
>>>>>>> because otherwise you will end up with corrupt data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 04:50 pm, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all, I am please to report that I think I've managed to create a
>>>>>>>> bootable Mountain Lion with the release I purchased last year with my
>>>>>>>> Apple ID that I made a backup to my external hard drive with.
>>>>>>>> I did this with SuperDuper and WOW!!! It was like so easy to do! Had a
>>>>>>>> bit of trouble understanding what was to come 1st the source or the
>>>>>>>> location. I finally figured it out with a youtube video though. lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't know what to do after this though so any guidance forth coming
>>>>>>>> would be fantastic but I'm glad that I've gotten the 1st step
>>>>>>>> completed! :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope everyone had a fabulous halloween!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel ************
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