Hi Lew, as all ways, wonderful detailed information. I will digest it at my own pace. If i were to not like Mavericks, at this present time and wanted to delete the 2nd created partition for a testing environment for the new OS, how would I delete, remove and recover my disc space from the created partition? I think you touched on it at the end of your instructions but if you could explain in a bit more detail how to restore the disc space get rid of Mavericks from the 2nd partition and have one whole disc drive working again. P.S. Just so you know I have a 13 inch Mac Book Pro with 4GB of RAM and the hard drive is 500GB Going by disc utility, I think the make is Toshiba at least that's what Voiceover is telling me after its announced the 500GB capacity. I hope this helps On 2 Nov 2013, at 12:51, Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Depending on the size of your hard drive which would be useful to know. > > In Disk utility, if you’re going to create a 2nd bootable partition, you > first interact with “Selected Disks” pane. A drive layout in this pane is as > such that the identifier of the drive (drive bus) is above the partition(s) > created on the drive. > > in this instance, you select the identifier above “Macintosh HD” which is > usually the size of drive or make of drive. > > now tab to the “Partition” tab and in this window, there’s a partition layout > pane. for sighted users, this is a graphical representation of the sizes of > partitions created. > > To add a partition, tab to the “Add Partition” Button, (identified as a + > button for V.I. users) This now splits the master drive into two. now you > need to interact with the partition window, this is identified in Voiceover > as the name of the current partition created, you’ll also find after adding a > partition a duplicate of Macintosh HD but this time it’s named Macintosh HD > 2. this can be resized and renamed.. Select Macintosh HD 2 and size the > partition to approx 60gb as a test only environment and name it Mavericks. > Apply changes to the partition map by tabbing to “Apply. > > if you’ve created a bootable installer, you can reboot your mac with the > installer, run mavericks, but this time, you select the mavericks partition > you’ve just created and it will install to it. > > Do please note that when booting, your mac will now default boot to the new > mavericks partition, unless you’ve configured it elsewhere. to change the > boot sequence of drives, you can go to Startup Disk in System preferences and > select Macintosh HD if you’re still using mountain lion, or Mavericks > partition if you’re going to do it this way. > > At any time, you can erase the mavericks partition but the only way of > recovering the lost partition back to your Macintosh HD is by holding Command > R on boot, use disk utility to resize the “Macintosh HD partition back to > it’s full size. > > lew > > On 2 Nov 2013, at 11:27 am, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi Lew, how would I create a disc partition with Voiceover? I kinda like the >> idea of making a test of Mavericks and then if it wasn't for me trashing it >> afterwards. >> Just want to learn about all my different options before going ahead. >> >> Thanks >> >> Daniel >> On 1 Nov 2013, at 17:42, Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> OK. when I say format the HDD. select Macintosh HD in disk utility when you >>> boot into the installer. you get a window with 4 options. you only need to >>> concern yourself with 2. Disk Utility, and install OS X Mountain Lion. >>> >>> Run disk utility, go to the Selected Disks Window and select Micontosh HD. >>> tab to the Erase Tab and there is a pull down menu. you need to select OS X >>> extended Journaled. then ensure your drive is named Macintosh HD unless >>> you’ve a name you like for the volume. then tab to the Erase button. it >>> will ask you to confirm to do so. Continue. >>> >>> once completed quit disk utility. Command Q lol >>> >>> now start the install OS X process. you’ll be asked to agree to terms, etc >>> then select the drive to install to. after that, let it do it’s thing and >>> away you go. >>> >>> lew. >>> >>> P.S: I advise clean installs only with regards Mavericks due to >>> compatibility issues. >>> >>> I have tested and confirmed on a number of workstations in test mode a >>> series of errors now reported to apple where certain installer conflicts >>> occur, this is where, in an upgrade instance, your mac can become bogged >>> down, conflict and require not only a disk permissions repair and disk >>> repair but also a lot of reworking. If you’re going to use mavericks, I >>> advise a clean install, or if you’re going to test it, make a partition on >>> your Macintosh HD and set a partition for about 60gb or so. then install >>> mavericks to that as a test point. if you’re not happy, you can dump and >>> recover your space to the HDD. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 05:31 pm, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Edward, or is it Lew I'm not sure which. lol >>>> Don't worry, I'll definitely make sure I'll have a backup of all my >>>> documents and alike before going ahead. >>>> A couple of things if I may ask. When you say format the HD do you mean >>>> the Macintosh hard drive? Just to be clear and secondly, what formats >>>> choices are there to choose from I'm just cureious and I'm making an >>>> educated guess but I bet my money on that it will be Mac OSX extended >>>> gernaled to format the hard drive too. >>>> >>>> My primary purpose of making the backup of ML is because I want to go to >>>> the Mavericks root by just the update method. Now, I know you advise >>>> people to go through the clean install path but I just want to update and >>>> if anything is wrong with Mavericks or I find it too buggy with Voiceover >>>> with my ML backup would I be able to successfully downgrade back to >>>> Mountain Lion? If so, how would one do this assuming I've made my ML >>>> bootable USB 8GB Sea-Gate flash drive that I brought the other day. From >>>> Argos by the way. lol >>>> I've never done a clean install or re-install of a previous Mac OS before >>>> so it is all new to me. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 17:05, Edward Lewis Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi daniel. >>>>> >>>>> first off, ensure you’ve backed up everything. glad that SuperDuper works >>>>> for you. it’s a useful product and part of my toolbox. >>>>> >>>>> open up system preferences and go to Startup Disk. you should see your >>>>> new bootable volume listed. if so, select it and tab to restart. now you >>>>> can continue reformatting your HDD using disk utility within the >>>>> installer then installing your OS. it is important to format the HDD >>>>> because otherwise you will end up with corrupt data. >>>>> >>>>> lew >>>>> >>>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 04:50 pm, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, I am please to report that I think I've managed to create a >>>>>> bootable Mountain Lion with the release I purchased last year with my >>>>>> Apple ID that I made a backup to my external hard drive with. >>>>>> I did this with SuperDuper and WOW!!! It was like so easy to do! Had a >>>>>> bit of trouble understanding what was to come 1st the source or the >>>>>> location. I finally figured it out with a youtube video though. lol >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't know what to do after this though so any guidance forth coming >>>>>> would be fantastic but I'm glad that I've gotten the 1st step >>>>>> completed! :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope everyone had a fabulous halloween! >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel ************ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>>>>> their list subscription is: >>>>>> >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>>>> >>>>>> The list archive is located at >>>>>> >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>>>> >>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>>>> >>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ************ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>>>> their list subscription is: >>>>> >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>>> >>>>> The list archive is located at >>>>> >>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>>> >>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>>> >>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>> >>>> ************ >>>> >>>> >>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>> >>>> >>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>>> their list subscription is: >>>> >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>> >>>> The list archive is located at >>>> >>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>> >>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>> >>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>> >>> ************ >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>> >>> >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>> their list subscription is: >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>> >>> The list archive is located at >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>> >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>> >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >> ************ >> >> >> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >> >> >> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >> their list subscription is: >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >> >> The list archive is located at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >> >> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >> >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to > their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. 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