Thank you. On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:59 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: > the list address is: > seeingwithsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > you can find more info at: > http://www.seeingwithsound.com > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Tracy Duffy <tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Now that's an idea. Where do I find this seeing with sound list or can you > send me the information about joining? Thanks. > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: > >> yes, it might be a good idea to join the seeing with sound list. I'd be >> happy to work with you as well. >> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Tracy Duffy <tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> It sounds really interesting to me, but it also seems like the sort of thing >> that I'd want to learn by working with someone who knows how to use it. Some >> things I can work my way through, but I think I'd want someone to help me >> learn this one. Then it seems like it could be quite helpful once you got it >> mastered. >> >> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> Actually, no this is a project that some blind engineers / a university >>> group I believe has been working on for years. They have some people >>> trained that do remarkable things with it. >>> >>> So it might not be your cup of tea but seeing with sound has had some >>> positive results. >>> >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Richard Ring <richring@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Personally, I think that anything that expects me to use my ears for >>>> something than hearing real sounds would not be helpful. This is not the >>>> first time I've encountered this kind of thing. Not to offend anyone, but >>>> I believe this is some well meaning sighted persons idea as to what blind >>>> people need. >>>> >>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of >>>> Fielding >>>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >>>> richring@xxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I saw a documentary about this about 15 years ago and I was a bi confused >>>>> by it. It sounds nice but would not your brain have a lot of overload in >>>>> this case? >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:28 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I just took this for it's first spin on my iPod touch 5 and am awed by >>>>>> it. I've been working with the original software since 1998 and am >>>>>> thrilled to have this functionality on iOs! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products and related >>>>>> applications >>>>>> LoginRegisterSubmit contentSupport AppleVisHelp >>>>>> Search this site: Search in: >>>>>> Apps Forum Blog Podcasts Guides App Deals Accessory Reviews >>>>>> Home » iOS App Directory » Utilities >>>>>> Voice vision >>>>>> Submitted by AnonyMouse on 8 January 2013 >>>>>> >>>>>> Posted in: >>>>>> Utilities >>>>>> Description of App >>>>>> This is a utility to help visual impaired persons to get a quick view of >>>>>> the surrounding environment by the camera.It helps you to detect >>>>>> walls,doors,windows,light sources.You can use it to know object's colors >>>>>> . >>>>>> This application convert image from the back camera to sound . It scans >>>>>> from left to right ,one to four times per second .A pixel from the image >>>>>> generate a tone at pitch from 440HZ to 15000HZ,the brightness controls >>>>>> the loudness of the tone. The pixels from the top generate high pitch >>>>>> sounds , and the pixels from the bottom of the image generate low pitch >>>>>> sounds . There are about 30 pixels generate sounds at the same time >>>>>> ,like 30 peoples sing together with different loudness. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a realtime color picker , which tells you the color name of the >>>>>> pixel of the center of the video frame . >>>>>> There is a image color analyzer ,which report the percentage of colors >>>>>> of a image . >>>>>> >>>>>> Version >>>>>> 1.0 >>>>>> Free or Paid >>>>>> Free >>>>>> Compatibility >>>>>> This is a universal app, so works natively on the iPhone, iPod Touch and >>>>>> iPad >>>>>> Device(s) App Was Tested On >>>>>> iPhone 5 >>>>>> Accessibility Comments >>>>>> Very accessible. >>>>>> >>>>>> VoiceOver Performance >>>>>> VoiceOver reads all page elements. >>>>>> Button Labelling >>>>>> All buttons are clearly labelled. >>>>>> Usability >>>>>> The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver and is easy to navigate and >>>>>> use. >>>>>> Other Comments >>>>>> This is a very interesting little utility. The app itself is very >>>>>> accessible. >>>>>> >>>>>> To completely grasp in what is going on will take some time to adjust to >>>>>> fully understand how it works. I highly recommend in reading the Manual >>>>>> and the Tutorial that comes with this app. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing to note about the color identification is that I believe it >>>>>> can recognize up to 192 different colors. The one thing that it doesn't >>>>>> have is the ability to turn on your Torch. I find that Color >>>>>> Identifications with devices that has the Torch does a better job of >>>>>> recognizing it. So for this app you really need to have a good lighting >>>>>> for a more accurate reading. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other options to sense things like the walls and objects is quite >>>>>> fascinating. I almost feel like a bat or it would seem like that this is >>>>>> what bat's must hear when they use their sonar kind of like mechnisim to >>>>>> detect things. As this may not be used reliablely in an everyday >>>>>> situation it is fun to play with. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other feature that it also provide is the light detection. As you >>>>>> would keep in mind that when focused on to a bright source the louder >>>>>> that the device will sound and the ability to go away or left/right of >>>>>> the source that it will be heard by the direction on your headphones. >>>>>> Very much like the Light Detector but this app isn't as annoying as you >>>>>> would find in the Light Detector. >>>>>> >>>>>> So you really get three functionality in this one single app that is >>>>>> FREE. However, there is an in-app purchase if you want the refreshing >>>>>> rate to be faster and more accurate. Plus, of course you would be >>>>>> helping the developer in making this app possible for us and supporting >>>>>> him for the effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to Voice vision in the App Store >>>>>> Visit developer web site >>>>>> User Options >>>>>> 0 AppleVis user(s) have recommended this app for VoiceOver users. >>>>>> 0 AppleVis user(s) have reported that they have contacted the developer >>>>>> about accessibility issues with this app. >>>>>> Login or register to post comments Post to Twitter >>>>>> Comments >>>>>> #1 Hi, I downloaded the >>>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. >>>>>> Hi, I downloaded the application and purchased the upgrade feature. I >>>>>> was wondering if the developer could make it so you could have extra >>>>>> slow panning. So that the sound would pan accross for at least two >>>>>> seconds before Restarting the panning sequence >>>>>> >>>>>> Login or register to post comments >>>>>> #2 Hi, I downloaded the free >>>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. >>>>>> Hi, I downloaded the free application and upgraded by purchasing. I was >>>>>> wondering if the developer could make the panning extra slow. So that >>>>>> the panning would cross at two seconds per pan. >>>>>> >>>>>> Login or register to post comments >>>>>> #3 sounds reversed on iPhone5 >>>>>> Submitted by mehgcap on 9 January 2013. >>>>>> I just downloaded this app and I noticed the soundscapes are reversed. >>>>>> They pan from right to left instead of left to right, and sounds on the >>>>>> left come from the right speaker and vice versa. Aside from that things >>>>>> seem to work perfectly! >>>>>> >>>>>> Login or register to post comments >>>>>> #4 I do believe I posted twice. >>>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. >>>>>> I do believe I posted twice. I'm sorry. I want to agree with the poster >>>>>> before me yes, the sounds are reversed on the iPhone five. I hope also >>>>>> that the developer can make it happen so that we can pan the sound >>>>>> accross for at least two seconds so we can really understand what we're >>>>>> looking at >>>>>> >>>>>> Login or register to post comments >>>>>> Similar Content >>>>>> You may also be interested in the following posts: >>>>>> >>>>>> i have developed a app that convert color to sound, is it useful? posted >>>>>> in AppleVis Forum on 15 November 2012 >>>>>> Image To Text - OCR posted in iOS App Directory on 3 July 2011 >>>>>> Color ID Free posted in iOS App Directory on 24 March 2011 >>>>>> VisionHunt Color Edition posted in iOS App Directory on 26 April 2011 >>>>>> Accessible Color Picker posted in AppleVis Forum on 14 November 2012 >>>>>> image recognition posted in AppleVis Forum on 4 October 2012 >>>>>> HueVue: Colorblind Tools posted in iOS App Directory on 19 September 2010 >>>>>> Solid Color on iPod/iPhone home screen for low vision users? posted in >>>>>> AppleVis Forum on 18 October 2012 >>>>>> About RSS Feeds Newsletters Links Developers Advocacy Contact >>>>>> Unless stated otherwise, all content is copyright AppleVis. 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