the list address is: seeingwithsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx you can find more info at: http://www.seeingwithsound.com On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Tracy Duffy <tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Now that's an idea. Where do I find this seeing with sound list or can you send me the information about joining? Thanks. On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: > yes, it might be a good idea to join the seeing with sound list. I'd be > happy to work with you as well. > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Tracy Duffy <tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > It sounds really interesting to me, but it also seems like the sort of thing > that I'd want to learn by working with someone who knows how to use it. Some > things I can work my way through, but I think I'd want someone to help me > learn this one. Then it seems like it could be quite helpful once you got it > mastered. > > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Actually, no this is a project that some blind engineers / a university >> group I believe has been working on for years. They have some people >> trained that do remarkable things with it. >> >> So it might not be your cup of tea but seeing with sound has had some >> positive results. >> >> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Richard Ring <richring@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Personally, I think that anything that expects me to use my ears for >>> something than hearing real sounds would not be helpful. This is not the >>> first time I've encountered this kind of thing. Not to offend anyone, but I >>> believe this is some well meaning sighted persons idea as to what blind >>> people need. >>> >>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of >>> Fielding >>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >>> richring@xxxxxxxxx >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> I saw a documentary about this about 15 years ago and I was a bi confused >>>> by it. It sounds nice but would not your brain have a lot of overload in >>>> this case? >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:28 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just took this for it's first spin on my iPod touch 5 and am awed by >>>>> it. I've been working with the original software since 1998 and am >>>>> thrilled to have this functionality on iOs! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products and related >>>>> applications >>>>> LoginRegisterSubmit contentSupport AppleVisHelp >>>>> Search this site: Search in: >>>>> Apps Forum Blog Podcasts Guides App Deals Accessory Reviews >>>>> Home » iOS App Directory » Utilities >>>>> Voice vision >>>>> Submitted by AnonyMouse on 8 January 2013 >>>>> >>>>> Posted in: >>>>> Utilities >>>>> Description of App >>>>> This is a utility to help visual impaired persons to get a quick view of >>>>> the surrounding environment by the camera.It helps you to detect >>>>> walls,doors,windows,light sources.You can use it to know object's colors . >>>>> This application convert image from the back camera to sound . It scans >>>>> from left to right ,one to four times per second .A pixel from the image >>>>> generate a tone at pitch from 440HZ to 15000HZ,the brightness controls >>>>> the loudness of the tone. The pixels from the top generate high pitch >>>>> sounds , and the pixels from the bottom of the image generate low pitch >>>>> sounds . There are about 30 pixels generate sounds at the same time ,like >>>>> 30 peoples sing together with different loudness. >>>>> >>>>> There is a realtime color picker , which tells you the color name of the >>>>> pixel of the center of the video frame . >>>>> There is a image color analyzer ,which report the percentage of colors of >>>>> a image . >>>>> >>>>> Version >>>>> 1.0 >>>>> Free or Paid >>>>> Free >>>>> Compatibility >>>>> This is a universal app, so works natively on the iPhone, iPod Touch and >>>>> iPad >>>>> Device(s) App Was Tested On >>>>> iPhone 5 >>>>> Accessibility Comments >>>>> Very accessible. >>>>> >>>>> VoiceOver Performance >>>>> VoiceOver reads all page elements. >>>>> Button Labelling >>>>> All buttons are clearly labelled. >>>>> Usability >>>>> The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver and is easy to navigate and >>>>> use. >>>>> Other Comments >>>>> This is a very interesting little utility. The app itself is very >>>>> accessible. >>>>> >>>>> To completely grasp in what is going on will take some time to adjust to >>>>> fully understand how it works. I highly recommend in reading the Manual >>>>> and the Tutorial that comes with this app. >>>>> >>>>> One thing to note about the color identification is that I believe it can >>>>> recognize up to 192 different colors. The one thing that it doesn't have >>>>> is the ability to turn on your Torch. I find that Color Identifications >>>>> with devices that has the Torch does a better job of recognizing it. So >>>>> for this app you really need to have a good lighting for a more accurate >>>>> reading. >>>>> >>>>> The other options to sense things like the walls and objects is quite >>>>> fascinating. I almost feel like a bat or it would seem like that this is >>>>> what bat's must hear when they use their sonar kind of like mechnisim to >>>>> detect things. As this may not be used reliablely in an everyday >>>>> situation it is fun to play with. >>>>> >>>>> The other feature that it also provide is the light detection. As you >>>>> would keep in mind that when focused on to a bright source the louder >>>>> that the device will sound and the ability to go away or left/right of >>>>> the source that it will be heard by the direction on your headphones. >>>>> Very much like the Light Detector but this app isn't as annoying as you >>>>> would find in the Light Detector. >>>>> >>>>> So you really get three functionality in this one single app that is >>>>> FREE. However, there is an in-app purchase if you want the refreshing >>>>> rate to be faster and more accurate. Plus, of course you would be helping >>>>> the developer in making this app possible for us and supporting him for >>>>> the effort. >>>>> >>>>> Link to Voice vision in the App Store >>>>> Visit developer web site >>>>> User Options >>>>> 0 AppleVis user(s) have recommended this app for VoiceOver users. >>>>> 0 AppleVis user(s) have reported that they have contacted the developer >>>>> about accessibility issues with this app. >>>>> Login or register to post comments Post to Twitter >>>>> Comments >>>>> #1 Hi, I downloaded the >>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. >>>>> Hi, I downloaded the application and purchased the upgrade feature. I was >>>>> wondering if the developer could make it so you could have extra slow >>>>> panning. So that the sound would pan accross for at least two seconds >>>>> before Restarting the panning sequence >>>>> >>>>> Login or register to post comments >>>>> #2 Hi, I downloaded the free >>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. >>>>> Hi, I downloaded the free application and upgraded by purchasing. I was >>>>> wondering if the developer could make the panning extra slow. So that the >>>>> panning would cross at two seconds per pan. >>>>> >>>>> Login or register to post comments >>>>> #3 sounds reversed on iPhone5 >>>>> Submitted by mehgcap on 9 January 2013. >>>>> I just downloaded this app and I noticed the soundscapes are reversed. >>>>> They pan from right to left instead of left to right, and sounds on the >>>>> left come from the right speaker and vice versa. Aside from that things >>>>> seem to work perfectly! >>>>> >>>>> Login or register to post comments >>>>> #4 I do believe I posted twice. >>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. >>>>> I do believe I posted twice. I'm sorry. I want to agree with the poster >>>>> before me yes, the sounds are reversed on the iPhone five. I hope also >>>>> that the developer can make it happen so that we can pan the sound >>>>> accross for at least two seconds so we can really understand what we're >>>>> looking at >>>>> >>>>> Login or register to post comments >>>>> Similar Content >>>>> You may also be interested in the following posts: >>>>> >>>>> i have developed a app that convert color to sound, is it useful? posted >>>>> in AppleVis Forum on 15 November 2012 >>>>> Image To Text - OCR posted in iOS App Directory on 3 July 2011 >>>>> Color ID Free posted in iOS App Directory on 24 March 2011 >>>>> VisionHunt Color Edition posted in iOS App Directory on 26 April 2011 >>>>> Accessible Color Picker posted in AppleVis Forum on 14 November 2012 >>>>> image recognition posted in AppleVis Forum on 4 October 2012 >>>>> HueVue: Colorblind Tools posted in iOS App Directory on 19 September 2010 >>>>> Solid Color on iPod/iPhone home screen for low vision users? posted in >>>>> AppleVis Forum on 18 October 2012 >>>>> About RSS Feeds Newsletters Links Developers Advocacy Contact >>>>> Unless stated otherwise, all content is copyright AppleVis. 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