O for goodness sakes it is free so why don't you all just install it and try it. I did yesterday and even paid the 0.99, to upgrade to support the developer > -----Original Message----- > From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 07:28 > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Voice vision | AppleVis > > I'm open to both but I am myself an environmental sounds guy. I think > it could be possible to be a good tool but I personally haven't had the > luck with it enough to want to obscure my normal hearing. I definitely > think others may have different experiences though and I personally > think it's worth checking out. > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:52 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > why not embrace both worlds? > > > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > Rich, I support your point, I'm not sure whether I would get to a > point I was comfortable listening to beeps in stereo instead of just > good old environmental sounds. I'm open to the idea though but I like > you would be a hard sell. I'm very picky about my bluetooth headsets > because I want access to as much environmental information as I > possibly can so I get the idea of not wanting to cloud that space with > artificial sounds of moderate usability. I'm open to the idea though > with training or practice it may be usable but I'm not sold. > > > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Richard Ring <richring@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> I, for one, am not afraid of it, I'm simply doubting its overall > usefulness for me. > >> > >> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of > Fielding > >> Sent from my Mac Book Pro > >> richring@xxxxxxxxx > >> > >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:57 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >>> I didn't say anything about using it, I said if you learn about it, > you are less likely to be afraid of it. > >>> > >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahomiak@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >>> > >>> I don't think it's necessarily as simple as a matter of a bit of > homework allaying fears. I think each person is different; for some, > additional input like this app may be very helpful; for others, it may > be tantamount to a distraction; it is true that only trying these > things will tell you for sure whether or not they would be helpful or > not. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Cheryl > >>> > >>> May the words of my mouth > >>> and the meditation of my heart > >>> be acceptable to You, Lord, > >>> my rock and my Redeemer. > >>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:32 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I guess it depends on the brain. I am aware of that documentary > but think a bit of home work would allay your fears. > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I saw a documentary about this about 15 years ago and I was a bi > confused by it. It sounds nice but would not your brain have a lot of > overload in this case? > >>>> > >>>> Take care. > >>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:28 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I just took this for it's first spin on my iPod touch 5 and am > awed by it. I've been working with the original software since 1998 > and am thrilled to have this functionality on iOs! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products and > related applications > >>>>> LoginRegisterSubmit contentSupport AppleVisHelp > >>>>> Search this site: Search in: > >>>>> Apps Forum Blog Podcasts Guides App Deals Accessory Reviews > >>>>> Home > iOS App Directory > Utilities > >>>>> Voice vision > >>>>> Submitted by AnonyMouse on 8 January 2013 > >>>>> > >>>>> Posted in: > >>>>> Utilities > >>>>> Description of App > >>>>> This is a utility to help visual impaired persons to get a quick > view of the surrounding environment by the camera.It helps you to > detect walls,doors,windows,light sources.You can use it to know > object's colors . > >>>>> This application convert image from the back camera to sound . It > scans from left to right ,one to four times per second .A pixel from > the image generate a tone at pitch from 440HZ to 15000HZ,the brightness > controls the loudness of the tone. The pixels from the top generate > high pitch sounds , and the pixels from the bottom of the image > generate low pitch sounds . There are about 30 pixels generate sounds > at the same time ,like 30 peoples sing together with different > loudness. > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a realtime color picker , which tells you the color name > of the pixel of the center of the video frame . > >>>>> There is a image color analyzer ,which report the percentage of > colors of a image . > >>>>> > >>>>> Version > >>>>> 1.0 > >>>>> Free or Paid > >>>>> Free > >>>>> Compatibility > >>>>> This is a universal app, so works natively on the iPhone, iPod > Touch and iPad > >>>>> Device(s) App Was Tested On > >>>>> iPhone 5 > >>>>> Accessibility Comments > >>>>> Very accessible. > >>>>> > >>>>> VoiceOver Performance > >>>>> VoiceOver reads all page elements. > >>>>> Button Labelling > >>>>> All buttons are clearly labelled. > >>>>> Usability > >>>>> The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver and is easy to > navigate and use. > >>>>> Other Comments > >>>>> This is a very interesting little utility. The app itself is very > accessible. > >>>>> > >>>>> To completely grasp in what is going on will take some time to > adjust to fully understand how it works. I highly recommend in reading > the Manual and the Tutorial that comes with this app. > >>>>> > >>>>> One thing to note about the color identification is that I > believe it can recognize up to 192 different colors. The one thing that > it doesn't have is the ability to turn on your Torch. I find that Color > Identifications with devices that has the Torch does a better job of > recognizing it. So for this app you really need to have a good lighting > for a more accurate reading. > >>>>> > >>>>> The other options to sense things like the walls and objects is > quite fascinating. I almost feel like a bat or it would seem like that > this is what bat's must hear when they use their sonar kind of like > mechnisim to detect things. As this may not be used reliablely in an > everyday situation it is fun to play with. > >>>>> > >>>>> The other feature that it also provide is the light detection. As > you would keep in mind that when focused on to a bright source the > louder that the device will sound and the ability to go away or > left/right of the source that it will be heard by the direction on your > headphones. Very much like the Light Detector but this app isn't as > annoying as you would find in the Light Detector. > >>>>> > >>>>> So you really get three functionality in this one single app that > is FREE. However, there is an in-app purchase if you want the > refreshing rate to be faster and more accurate. Plus, of course you > would be helping the developer in making this app possible for us and > supporting him for the effort. > >>>>> > >>>>> Link to Voice vision in the App Store > >>>>> Visit developer web site > >>>>> User Options > >>>>> 0 AppleVis user(s) have recommended this app for VoiceOver users. > >>>>> 0 AppleVis user(s) have reported that they have contacted the > developer about accessibility issues with this app. > >>>>> Login or register to post comments Post to Twitter > >>>>> Comments > >>>>> #1 Hi, I downloaded the > >>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. > >>>>> Hi, I downloaded the application and purchased the upgrade > feature. I was wondering if the developer could make it so you could > have extra slow panning. So that the sound would pan accross for at > least two seconds before Restarting the panning sequence > >>>>> > >>>>> Login or register to post comments > >>>>> #2 Hi, I downloaded the free > >>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. > >>>>> Hi, I downloaded the free application and upgraded by purchasing. > I was wondering if the developer could make the panning extra slow. So > that the panning would cross at two seconds per pan. > >>>>> > >>>>> Login or register to post comments > >>>>> #3 sounds reversed on iPhone5 > >>>>> Submitted by mehgcap on 9 January 2013. > >>>>> I just downloaded this app and I noticed the soundscapes are > reversed. They pan from right to left instead of left to right, and > sounds on the left come from the right speaker and vice versa. Aside > from that things seem to work perfectly! > >>>>> > >>>>> Login or register to post comments > >>>>> #4 I do believe I posted twice. > >>>>> Submitted by Sean Terry on 9 January 2013. > >>>>> I do believe I posted twice. I'm sorry. I want to agree with the > poster before me yes, the sounds are reversed on the iPhone five. I > hope also that the developer can make it happen so that we can pan the > sound accross for at least two seconds so we can really understand what > we're looking at > >>>>> > >>>>> Login or register to post comments > >>>>> Similar Content > >>>>> You may also be interested in the following posts: > >>>>> > >>>>> i have developed a app that convert color to sound, is it useful? > posted in AppleVis Forum on 15 November 2012 > >>>>> Image To Text - OCR posted in iOS App Directory on 3 July 2011 > >>>>> Color ID Free posted in iOS App Directory on 24 March 2011 > >>>>> VisionHunt Color Edition posted in iOS App Directory on 26 April > 2011 > >>>>> Accessible Color Picker posted in AppleVis Forum on 14 November > 2012 > >>>>> image recognition posted in AppleVis Forum on 4 October 2012 > >>>>> HueVue: Colorblind Tools posted in iOS App Directory on 19 > September 2010 > >>>>> Solid Color on iPod/iPhone home screen for low vision users? > posted in AppleVis Forum on 18 October 2012 > >>>>> About RSS Feeds Newsletters Links Developers Advocacy Contact > >>>>> Unless stated otherwise, all content is copyright AppleVis. 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