[lit-ideas] Re: Vanunu's Secret
- From: "carol kirschenbaum" <cskir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:57:13 -0700
Dear, dear Andreas,
It's consoling that you understand why the US did not take action against
Israel when it attacked an American ship. But would you kindly explain to me
why that is? Tell me why the US government would accept this attack so
gracefully, please, given that Israel is not a useful ally to the U.S.
Really, I'm interested, but forgive me if I don't believe either you or I
have all the answers behind the US's decisions. Is the Zionist lobby
currently so powerful? I think you and Omar overestimate it. Many Jews in
the US have been voicing an antipathy towards Israel's policies. Jews are
not of one mind anymore, if ever we were.
>ck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 11:32 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Vanunu's Secret
> > > Israel knowingly and intentionally attacked an American
> > > naval vessel, killing some two dozen sailors.
>
> > ck: This was awful, cockeyed, and very strange, yes. I don't know why
the
> US
> > let Israel off the hook here, and neither do you. Something else going
> on--a
> > greater cause, or whatever...
>
> Carol, you're a nice person, but your history is mostly your personal
> opinions.
>
> Let's take this example. Carol should know the facts. I've known about
this
> for years. It's easy to find out about this on the web.
>
> The attack on the USS Liberty was intentional. Israel knew it was a US
Navy
> vessel. Israeli jets fired all of their rockets at the ship and then
strafed
> it. When they ran out of ammunition, three Israel gunboats sailed in and
> began machinegunning what was left of the ship. The intention was to kill
> everyone aboard and sink the ship.
>
> The US covered it up.
>
> Why did Israel try to destroy their own ally's ship? What was so important
> that they would do this to their friend, ally, US protector, etc., as some
> people describe the US/Israeli relationship?
>
> Carol wonders if it was a greater cause?
>
> Yes, indeed, it was for a greater cause.
>
> At that moment, Israel was carrying out a massacre. At the town of el
Arish,
> some 1,000 Palestinians and Egyptian POWs were lined up and murdered. They
> were forced to dig pits, and then they were lined up and executed.
>
> The USS Liberty was a CIA ship and it was picking up the radio signals:
> Israeli orders, questions, discussions, about the massacre. Israel was
> committing a war crime. The orders were coming from the very top of
Israel's
> government, and the USA was recording the evidence.
>
> And that had to be stopped, no matter what it may cost, even attacking a
US
> Navy vessel and murdering its crew. The evidence had to be destroyed.
>
> The attack was not a mistake: Israel knew it was an American vessel and
> debated this for six hours before it attacked. The attack was personally
> ordered by Moshe Dayan.
>
> That's a really great ally we have.
>
> The entire Liberty incident is a disgrace to Israel, that did this, and
the
> US government, that covered it up.
>
> So now you know, Carol, about Israel's attack on the USS Liberty and why
it
> happened.
>
> yrs,
> andreas
> www.andreas.com
>
>
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