[lit-ideas] Re: Vanunu's Secret
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:28:35 -0700 (PDT)
--- Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Not ally, Omar: satellite.
*Carol did use the word 'satellite,' but in the next
sentence she used 'ally.' So I took the liberty of
interpreting her remarks.
Anyway, I don't think that it is correct to refer to
Israel as a satellite. Compare, for example, Taiwan,
which is dependent on the US for defense and political
representation (though economically self-subsistent,
unlike Israel). Taiwan has no influence on the US
policy, and if at any point the US reckons it is in
its interest to turn it over to China, it will do so
without much ceremony. Looks rather different from the
relationship with Israel.
O.K.
> Judy Evans
> jaye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> --- carol kirschenbaum <cskir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > This "joke" implies an irrational US prejudice
> > towards Israel, on
> > racial/ethnic grounds, and against the Arab states
> > in the almost completely
> > Arab region. It ignores the simple fact that
> Israel
> > has been a US satellite
> > for 55 years (and counting), which has benefitted
> > the US's global interests
> > enormously. Israel has been a trusted and
> > trustworthy ally to the US. If
> > Israel were situated less strategically, its
> > existence as a Jewish state
> > would still interest the US, yes, though hardly to
> > the extent that it has.
>
> Andreas has already made most of the points that
> needed to be made here. That Israel has been a US
> ally
> since its inception is somewhat of a current myth.
> When Israel proclaimed independence in 1948, it was
> not certain of US recognition. Moshe Sharret went to
> President Truman and said that Israel would be
> independent only within the borders stipulated by
> the
> UN partition plan, whereupon Truman reluctantly
> agreed
> to recognize it. When Israel, in alliance with
> Britain
> and France, attacked Egypt in 1956, the US strongly
> objected to the adventure and forced Israel to
> withdraw. It was only after the Six-Day in 1967 that
> the US political establishment starting perceiving
> Israel as a close ally. This was due in part to
> Israel's perceived usefulness at keeping the Arab
> countries low and counter-ballancing the Soviet
> influence in the region, but it also had a lot to do
> with the influence of the Zionist lobby at home,
> hence
> "irrational prejudice" in favor of Israel and
> against
> the Arabs had a big part to play in it. The
> usefulness
> of the alliance to the US, especially after the
> Soviet
> Union has disappeared, is not extremely obvious and
> it
> is certainly given to questioning, as Andreas
> pointed
> out.
>
> O.K.
>
>
>
>
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