<<Since we have nothing of "Yeshua's messages" except through Christianity, how can there be a highjacking?>> I don't understand this remark. Yeshua was a Jew who attempted to reform Judaism. He was not a "Christian". Christianity was an evolution of politically and religiously motivated groups, those who wanted to Hellenize the area, those who wanted to graft in to the Torah the Gentiles w/out asking them to accept Judaism full-blown, etc. Yeshua's messages via the gospels and apocryphal texts we have bear little resemblance to any contemporary understanding or expression of "Christianity", in my opinion. Roman and Greek extrapolation of the texts formed "Christianity". See Aquinas vs. Augustine. Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: "Stand By Denmark" Rally Date: 2/25/06 5:03:30 P.M. Central Standard Time From: _phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: Julie Krueger wrote: "... the highjacking of Yeshua's messages by Christianity." Since we have nothing of "Yeshua's messages" except through Christianity, how can there be a highjacking? Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html