Is it that moderate/liberal Islamists don't speak, or that some of us don't pay attention ? Of course, the moderates and the liberals don't usually drive planes into buildings so it's a bit more difficult for them to get noticed. Also, we may have a problem of definitions, i.e. if you consider anyone who doesn't like the US occupation of Iraq to be a dangerous radical, then there isn't much difference between Osama Bin-Laden and Mike Geary. On a slightly more serious note, some of them do also face repression or censorship, for example in Mubarak's Egypt. There is also the matter that proggressive-minded people like Abdul-Karim Soroush of Iran are not usually identified as Islamists but instead are presented as Western-style liberals. (Soroush argues for greater democratization and protection of personal freedoms, but he himself is a devout Muslim and Islamic scholar, and his arguments are formulated in Islamic terms.) Rather than go on about trying to prove that America exists, I think that I will just post some websites. You will not find much enthusiasm for George W. Bush on these websites, but you will find writings by moderate and/or liberal Islamists. http://www.islamonline.net/English/index.shtml http://www.muslimedia.com/mainpage.htm http://www.muslimaccess.com/index.html http://www.islamicity.com/default.shtml http://www.mwlusa.org/publications/essays/polirights.html http://www.islamfortoday.com/women.htm http://www.islam21.net/index.html http://www.drsoroush.com/English.htm http://www.ijtihad.org/ http://www.free-minds.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html