On 4/23/07, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We do disagree here, Paul. I think a group of robbers who broke into the property of an 84 year old woman who has to use a walker to get around on, and then decides to approach her; which they apparently had the wisdom not to do, ought to be shot. The law allows for that. If they were to run away, she wouldn't legally be allowed to shoot them. But if they come after her, then she is permitted to shoot them -- and ought to.
And... that's what wrong. Firstly, picking up on what Phil said about what I said... I once found some teenagers rooting around in my backyard. I went out there, completely unarmed and shouted "hey, what do you think you're doing?" They ran. In the morning I found they had merely rooted through tools and caused me perhaps 30 minutes of wasted day putting my stuff away. See the thing is... I KNEW they wouldn't have guns so I didn't need one. That's not the case in our little old lady from Pasadena. And that's the real pity. How fucked up is a place that makes people think they NEED a gun to protect themselves and even more pitifully, their property? from intruders? Because they KNOW there is a good chance that those intruders are armed, and as such, pose a mortal threat to their person? Like I've said, there's a huge problem because there are soo many guns. there are sooo many people willing to use them and there are sooo many other people giving them a "reason" to use em. paul