I think it was Eric who brought up the subject of the Saddam tapes showing that Saddam was worse than thought, that evidence was being translated that indicated all the fears were true, and I responded by indicating a belief that surely those on Lit-Ideas would eventually catch on and put the old "Bush was lying" nonsense to bed once and for all, but not so (I am repeating myself for obvious reasons). It seems many of the Lit-Idears prefer reading conspiracy theories about the past than the new discoveries being translated. Here is one of the many articles available to anyone that wants to catch up: http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20 <http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=1&issue =20060328> &artnum=1&issue=20060328 Lawrence _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Kirschenbaum Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:42 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Hitchens' Hypothetical Iraq War JE: "I read that _The Times_ published a UK Govt memo that showed Bush and Blair knew there were no WMDs." ck: It was in the NYT (front page, online) yesterday, I believe. A longer feature ran last Sunday. Is there any doubt, any longer, that Bush was merely looking for reasons to justify a war that he was intent on having, as the memo says? According to this memo, Bush also considered "planting" a phony provocation by Saddam--to wit, shoot down an American plane, but accuse Saddam of the shooting. (Q: Is Lawrence reading the media lately, I wonder? Does he believe all mainstream media is completely without merit, regarding the US invasion of Iraq, and subsequent war? How has he managed to miss this verification of earlier suspicions--or does he simply dismiss this memo?) Carol, aka Sneezy