[lit-ideas] Re: Ground Zero Mosque's Saudi Patron
- From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:30:04 +0000 (GMT)
what's wrong with being 'apologists' for moderate Muslims?
and why don't you want to talk about Al-Waleed bin Talal's stake in News
Corporation or his donation to the Bush Scholarship Fund at Philips Andover --
500,000?
incidentally, you wrote
>The Saudi individual identified as a Mosque backer
so I misread the investors.com piece. Al-Waleed bin Talal gave 300,000 dollars
to one of the organisations coordinating the Cordoba Centre project.
Judy Evans, Cardiff
--- On Sat, 28/8/10, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ground Zero Mosque's Saudi Patron
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, 28 August, 2010, 15:55
> Ah ha. I knew it. Leave
> it to the Left apologists for moderate and or
> radical Muslim to ferret out the seething right-wing
> cauldron of
> insidiousness behind this harmless seeming Business
> journal. Glenn Beck?
> Very interesting. I never watch him; so I'll take
> your word for it. Glenn
> Beck is behind Investors Business Daily? Or did I get
> that wrong. Maybe
> you said this business journal sounds like Glenn Beck
> and is therefore
> Glenn Beck oriented . . . All I need to know is that
> it is Glenn-Beck-type
> guilty! Enough said.
>
> Lawrence
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Phil Enns
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:30 AM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ground Zero Mosque's Saudi Patron
>
> Lawrence Helm gave the following link and then wrote:
>
> http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/545180/201008261900/Mosques
> -Saudi-Patron.aspx
>
> "The Saudi individual identified as a Mosque backer has
> strong ties to the
> Muslim Brotherhood."
>
>
> This article is terrible, being all 'Glenn Beck' rhetoric
> and no reporting.
>
> For example, here is the article's discussion of the
> relationship between
> Alwaleed bin Talal and the Muslim Brotherhood:
>
> "Bin Talal is a major financier of Muslim Brotherhood
> fronts in the U.S" [No
> mention of specific organizations.]
>
> "His foundation is run by Saudi hijabi Muna Abu Sulayman"
> who is the
> daughter of a man who is claimed to be 'one of the most
> important figures in
> the history of the global Muslim Brotherhood'. [We
> aren't told what makes
> the man important, only that some members of the Muslim
> Brotherhood think he
> is important. And the reference to 'hijabi' is worth
> mentioning, why?]
>
> "Dr. Sulayman's U.S. offices were raided by the feds after
> 9/11 on suspicion
> of providing material support to terror groups." [No
> mention of charges.
> Apparently the mere fact that a raid happened is evidence
> of something.]
>
> Sulayman studied in Cairo, the city which is the
> headquarters of the Muslim
> Brotherhood. [No mention of any contact.]
>
> And the 'Glenn Beck' conclusion:
>
> "Rauf insists he's a 'healer' trying to build 'bridges'
> between Islam and
> the West. But these radical Brotherhood connections raise
> new suspicions."
> [No mention of specific suspicions.]
>
> The article establishes no connection between the Muslim
> Brotherhood and
> either bin Talal or the center. There is no evidence
> provided that bin
> Talal has supported Brotherhood charities nor is there
> evidence given that
> Sulayman, or her father, have provided support to the
> Brotherhood. The best
> the writer can do is put Sulayman in the same city as the
> Brotherhood and
> point to Rauf's work on shariah.
>
> For more information on the Saudi patron, see:
>
> http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/08/27/the_billionaire_prince
>
> To shamelessly steal from Jon Stewart, if Lawrence were
> truly opposed to
> this Saudi patron of the Brotherhood, he should also be
> raising alarms about
> how bin Talal's other investments in the U.S., including
> his considerable
> investment in News Corp., are furthering the interests of
> the Muslim
> Brotherhood.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Phil Enns
>
> p.s. For those who may not be familiar with News Corp, this
> is the parent
> company of Fox News.
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--- On Sat, 28/8/10, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ground Zero Mosque's Saudi Patron
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, 28 August, 2010, 15:55
> Ah ha. I knew it. Leave
> it to the Left apologists for moderate and or
> radical Muslim to ferret out the seething right-wing
> cauldron of
> insidiousness behind this harmless seeming Business
> journal. Glenn Beck?
> Very interesting. I never watch him; so I'll take
> your word for it. Glenn
> Beck is behind Investors Business Daily? Or did I get
> that wrong. Maybe
> you said this business journal sounds like Glenn Beck
> and is therefore
> Glenn Beck oriented . . . All I need to know is that
> it is Glenn-Beck-type
> guilty! Enough said.
>
> Lawrence
>
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