Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 2:29:42 AM, david ritchie wrote: dr> On Dec 26, 2005, at 4:28 PM, Judith Evans wrote: >> >> Yes it is. These are I think the relevant part of the >> piece David Ritchie posted: >> >> dr> Bear in mind that crews were skilled in the air war, both flying dr> planes and shooting missiles at them. Yes indeed. dr> As Robert says, any argument dr> about some physical or intellectual impediment that kept people from dr> using modern weapons would be racist and silly. If the infantry was dr> ill-trained, they probably lacked that priceless component, a dr> dependable core of NCOs. It sounded as though that was part of the problem. dr> But the point that "Andy" seems to be driving at is that a diverse dr> country, used to the workings of a dictatorship, is not likely to dr> develop a good working police force and an skilled army in the near dr> term. Is that what "untrainable" means? Not to me. dr> It's an odd use of the dr> term, but not unlike things that were said about the Scots and the dr> Irish and the Welsh not long ago--too wild and fractious a group of dr> people ever to be able to live as civilized people. True. So it depends what the training's for! -- and re speed, well, the army and police force are being trained too quickly (any other considerations, including preconditions for stable democracy, apart) -- Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK mailto:judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html