[lit-ideas] Re: A Question REALLY Answered
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:28:38 -0500
I don't have specific details, and the word untrainable is not mine. I either
read or heard it. I don't think for a minute that it has anything to do with
I.Q. or hand-eye coordination. From what I can gather, they're untrainable
because there's such a mish mosh of factions, extreme criminality, they're
infiltrated left and right with insurgents and so on. There simply is no such
entity as the Iraqi People to train. In addition, Americans are hated and
anyone who cooperates with Americans has retribution visited upon them.
There's too much chaos from which to create an army. Likewise the police force
is a joke from everything I've read/heard.
----- Original Message -----
From: david ritchie
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 12/26/2005 2:05:56 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: A Question REALLY Answered
On Dec 25, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Andreas Ramos wrote:
Specifically, he meant their lack of experience. The officer said that he had
"not met one, not one, Iraqi who knew how to use a scope". They simply don't
understand how to use weapons, act as an army, act as a team, and so on.
I wonder about the Iraq/Iran War. Did they just simply slaughter each other in
the most primitive way?
"Andy" adds, "Iraqi soldiers are in fact not trainable in the sense that the
American Army is trainable. "
May I call your attention to the following website
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/iran_iraq_war/iran_iraq_war3.php
which repeats, in different form, the claim that both Iraq and Iran's forces
were unable to use scopes (the ref here is to tank scopes). And yet, you'll
note, the air war was fought in sophisticated fashion.
You'll see that the infantry slaughter was very primitive, particularly once
the Iranians put Mullahs in charge of military operations.
Is "Andy" saying that those people who choose to join Iraq's new armed forces
are different from their American counterparts in some way: I.Q. or hand-eye
co-ordination or willingness to listen and to be subject to military
discipline? What makes them "untrainable"?
David Ritchie
Portland, Oregon
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