[LRflex] Re: Water Spots? MORE QUESTIONS

  • From: "Dave Saalsaa" <dsaalsaa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:24:20 -0500

Hi David,
  I agree with all of your dilemmas as I pondered all the variables you did. 
Instead of the Canon 10-22 I went with the Tokina 12-24 and have found it an 
excellent lower cost alternative.  It is extremely sharp with very little 
distortion and build quality is superb.  When in low light situations it 
does hunt a bit for focus so that is when I switch it off by pulling the 
focus ring backward and continue on.  It is a very slick solution.  It is as 
good optically to the Leica brand lenses?  Probably not but it is performing 
as good as my needs dictate.  Colour is a very good match to my Leica lenses 
too which was very important to me.  None of that old cold temp rendition of 
older Tokina lenses.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <telyt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:19 AM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: Water Spots? MORE QUESTIONS


> Dave Saalsaa wrote:
>
>>Good morning to you, David.  I also went the 20D route and love it except
>>for a few things. I find that with my style of shooting, auto focus is not
>>perfect and I sometimes switch it off and cope just fine.  Now if I only 
>>had
>>a split screen like on my Leica R's.  I like the idea of the DMR but  also
>>like the idea of using some of the new ultra wide angle lenses which are 
>>not
>>yet available from Leica  and won't be at a price I can afford new.  I 
>>guess
>>champagne taste on a lite beer budget is my main problem.  ;-)
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
> Hi Dave!
>
> I am truly torn... I am very pleased with the 20D.  It delivers amazing
> photo quality for the price and has a reasonable build quality, though
> certainly, it ain't no Leica!
>
> I tend to see "long" - and have used a 85 or 90mm lens as a 'standard'
> for some 40 years.  (This may explain my love of the 80~200/4 Vario!)  I
> rarely use w/a lenses, and when I do, it's because my back is against a
> wall or a cliff, and I have no choice.  The only w/a I own is the 21SA,
> 'cause it will bail me out in such situations.
>
> Of course on the LeiCanon, with it's 1.6 crop factor, the 21 is
> virtually a 35. :-(
>
> On the plus side, the 1.6 crop factor means that the vignetting problem
> of the 400 Telyt with 2X TC is solved.  All the vignetting is outside
> the sensors area and the shots look GREAT!
>
> So the debate raging in my mind is do I:
>
> 1) stay with the 20D and buy the 10~22mm Canon w/a zoom to solve my w/a
> problem?
> or
> 2) move to the new full-frame 5D so that my 21SA will work as I expect
> (and take my chances with the 400+2x vignetting)?
> or
> 3) save my pennies for the DM-R where my 21 will work like a 28mm and
> live with 'some' vignetting at the 800mm end?
>
> The decision becomes complicated, because the quality of colour/detail I
> see in some of the DM-R shots is often startling, compared to the Canon
> bodies... but cost, short battery life, size and weight still temper my
> enthusiasm.  Raw (.dng) files that are twice the size of the Canon's raw
> (.CR2) files are a factor too, for they mean carrying more cards with you.
>
> Lastly, I agree that the Canon's autofocus is not "all that" - but I'm
> fascinated by your wish for a split screen rangefinder.... the first
> thing I do with any 'R' camera is get rid of the standard screen, and go
> with the all matte one!  (Mind you, I cheat... I use the  matte screen
> with grid lines... a great 'cheat' to help keep horizons level!)
>
> Cheers!
>
> -- 
> David Young,
> Logan Lake, BC
> CANADA.
>
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