David, The advantage of the M6 over the R6 in some situations is that th= e M6 is almost silent. I took up playing with photography only 3= years ago in my late forties so my experience has been mostly limited to m= odern cameras that meter, however I'm quite determined to develop manu= al skills and a better eye for assessing the exposure requirements. I have never used an M5 but research seems to indicate to me that the needl= e pointer in the vf coupled with the larger shutter speed control make= s it a better user combination. I say this because I use a Konica T3 = SLR which is based on the idea of shutter priority rather than aperture pri= ority in its auto metering mode. Through the VF on the T3 you can see= an aperture scale on the right with a needle pointer, as you adjust shutte= r speed the needle will correspondingly point to the aperture speed it will= select to take the shot. Of course one can overide this. I find= this a very intuitiveand 'tactile' way of knowing what is going on. I believe the M5 is similar as an aperture scale is displayed at the botton= of the VF. One end of the scale indicates widest aperture and t= he other end indicates the greatest stopped down position. The n= eedle moves betweenthese extremes depending on the aperture setting. = There is also a readout which shows you the selected shutter speed. = When the match needlesintersect along the aperture scale by either changin= g the shutter speed or the aperture setting, 'correct' exposure is achieved= . The images in the linked article show the system better than I can exp= lain it. http://photo.net/equipment= /leica/m5/[1] I am sure though that mastery and proficiency with either of these cameras = will produce the same results. Walter On Wed Jan 6 12:04 , David Simms sent: Interesting comments,= Walter &Charlie. I've never used an M5 but those comments are the typ= e of thing I was looking for. With the R6, the meter tells you whether you're low or high but it doesnt t= ell you by how much. So, I find that I have to look at the f stop or shutte= r speed to see which I want to adjust and how much adjustment I have. All o= f that takes time. It's not a problem for nature or other slow-moving subje= cts but, for people I prefer to pre-adjust and to fly with that exposure be= cause then, the only issue is focus. I assume, from your comments, that the M6 would not confer much of an advan= tage insofar as street shooting or for other situations where people are th= e center of interest because it is similar to the R6 and, as you point out = Walter, there is the issue of the shutter speed dial. Thanks Dave ________________________________ From: "walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx[2]" <walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx= [3]> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[4] Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 3:07:09 PM Subject: [LRflex] Using the M6 Some on the list have been puzzled about my comments concerning getting use=3Dd to the M6. There is a simple explanation. The M6 is the first= Rangefinder camera I have used. Till recently I shot mostly=3D with = SLRs and Pshooters, usually in aperture priority mode with autom=3D atic exposure active. I'm used to compensating exposure by adjusting =3D shutter sp= eed with the command dial on modernn D/SLRs Getting used to the finder and attempting manual focus and metering on the = M6 is quite slow for me at this point. So far I'm presetting the mete= =3D ring relative to the scene however if conditions change then I'm not yet ve=3D r= y quick at resetting things to accomodate. Any tips on using Leica M=3D= s or howto practice appreciated. I'm not in a position to compare va=3D ri= ous M versions, for what it;'s worth though I think the M5 is the best ergonicall= y, the needle metering display and the fact that the shutter =3D dial= extends past the edge of the camera for quick and easy manipulation se=3D e= m advances on the M6. My prefernce is often to shoot as wide open as possible given the light and= to adust the shutter speed accordingly. I am not sure if this is = ;appropriate methodology with the M6. Regards Walter =3D ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.fur= nfeather.net/[5] Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/[6] __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your f= avourite sites. 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