[LRFlex] Re: Leica DMR
- From: Ornello Pederzoli <ornellopederzoli@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT)
Ganz richtig!
--- "Peter M.C. Werner" <pwerner@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> David,
>
> > As I stated earlier, other than the joy of using a
> body that is
> superbly
> > crafted, the essence of Leica photography is in
> the lenses... the
> LeiCanon
> > option allows for the quality of photography Leica
> users exepect.
>
> Allow me to disagree.
>
> The results will not be the same at least in terms
> of color rendition
> and noise; the DMR and the 20D are quite different
> in that respect.
> Why use Leica glass at all?
> Can you really tell the difference?
>
> Ask a convinced Canon user and he will tell you we
> Leica users are just
> talking nonsense. Be honest and admit you do not
> want to invest the
> money needed for Leica equipment and that second
> best has to be good
> enough. After all, it is the photographer, not the
> gear.... You can make
> excellent photos even with $500 digicams.
>
> Canon gear (including Canon lenses) is excellent,
> there is no shame in
> it. Just do not pretend there is no difference with
> Leica.
>
> Peter Werner
> www.leicaphoto.net
> Route. de l'Etraz 2 - 1183 Bursins - Switzerland
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:leicareflex-
> > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Young
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 21:21
> > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [LRFlex] Re: Leica DMR
> >
> > Karen:
> >
> > I don't think anybody (certainly, not me) is
> arguing that the 20D is
> > anywhere near the build quality of any Leica.
> >
> > However, in the fast changing world of digital, if
> my 20D lasts 5
> years, I
> > can buy an improved replacement. And if that
> camera dies in 5 more
> years,
> > I can buy an improved replacement and I'll have
> still spent less than
> a
> > DM-R.
> >
> > The ONLY problem with the DMR is not it's
> longevity. In fact, that is
> most
> > likely it's worst feature, given the rapidly
> changing digital scene.
> >
> > As digital matures, I will eventually invest in an
> R11 digi-body - if
> such
> > a thing is ever made. But I cannot afford to
> support Leica at their
> > current prices and with the current short product
> life cycles.
> >
> > As I stated earlier, other than the joy of using a
> body that is
> superbly
> > crafted, the essence of Leica photography is in
> the lenses... the
> LeiCanon
> > option allows for the quality of photography Leica
> users exepect.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > David.
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >
> > On 08/06/2005 at 9:09 AM Karen Nakamura wrote:
> >
> > >> > ... the 20D comes **very** close at 1/4 the
> price
> > >>
> > >>No disputing the value represented by the 20D
> but this begs the
> > >>question.... hasn't Leica always been a premium
> brand? Haven't
> > >>there always been lower-cost alternatives
> delivering good quality?
> > >>It appears that to many on this list the 20D's
> performance is good
> > >>enough - so why have you used Leica before?
> Were the lower-cost
> > >>film cameras not good enough?
> > >
> > >Doug -
> > >
> > >I agree! Were we having this discussion ten
> years ago? I could
> > >imagine: "I could buy a EOS Rebel for $200 at
> Walmart. Why should I
> > >buy a Leica R6.2? It can't even do auto-focus. I
> can use all my R-
> > >lens on my Rebel with an adapter."
> > >
> > >The 20D isn't a Rebel, but it isn't even an
> EOS-3, it's about an
> > >EOS-5 or EOS-7 in build quality.
> > >
> > >The proper comparison with the R9/DMR is the
> Canon EOS 1D Mark II.
> > >Similar crop factor, similar size, and similar
> build quality, and not
> > >that different in price.
> > >
> > >Karen
> > >
> > >--
> > >Karen Nakamura
> > >http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/
> > >http://www.photoethnography.com/blog/
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> >
> > David Young,
> > Logan Lake, BC
> > CANADA.
> >
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> http://www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr
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