Richard, Some good places to browse might be http://www.keh.com./onlinestore/home.aspx http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/lenses/lenses/lenses/page91.html and http://www.lumieresenboite.com/collection2.php?l=2&c=Leica_R4 with links. There are jillions of such sites, but you might find these useful, among others. Guy On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:44 AM, David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Richard wrote: > > Hello List, > my name's Richard and I'm still new here, but it seems like a nice group > of users here. I have received some nice comments about the Image I posted a > link to on the list to an image I shot with my Zeiss Pancolar on my 20D. > (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3522/3267824103_9f55579064_b.jpg) > Since I'm not yet a member of the "R" ownership club as of yet, I kind of > felt a need to establish having some Chops as a Photographer if I'm going to > be posting around these parts. > As for "Shopping Frustration": I simply want to ask about any tips or > info a list member might be able to pass along because, so far, the only > thing I've been able to get with months of searching eBay, the 'Net, and > Locally, for 'R' equipment is a terrible case of Shoppers Frustration. > Everything I encounter seems to be outlandishly expensive limited editions, > collectors items, and f0.0 Niche Lenses on the top end and the bottom end > are all pricey near mint condition stuff commanding premium prices. Where > the heck can I find the stuff someone's actually USED, that has wear on the > outside, cleaning marks and (Heaven Forbid!) even a scratch in the coating. > The "3 Cam" & ROM Lenses (?did I say that right?) might be the latest > greatest, I surmise, but there must be something usable about those 1 cam > or 2 cam lenses, too, isn't there? I'm willing to try em! Sigh. > > > > Hi Richard! > > One cam lenses are only useable on the original Leicaflex ... that is why > they appear on the market at quite low prices. Two cam lenses can be used > on the Leicaflex and the Leicaflex SL and SL2 cameras. But, to use the > newer R3, R4, R4s, R5, RE, R6, R6.2, R7, R8 or R9, you will need either 3 > cam or "3rd cam only" lenses. BTW: "3rd cam only" and the newest ROM lenses > are not common and can only be used on the "R" series, whereas 3 cam lenses > can be used on any Leica Reflex, from the original "flex", onwards. Because > of their greater versatility, they command higher prices for any given level > on condition. > > For more on this, see: > > http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/index-frameset.html?Lens-R.html~mainFrame > > Doug Herr has offered some Leicaflex SL's in working but not pristine > condition, lately, on our Friday for Sale days, at some very reasonable > prices. Recently, Aram sold an R4 though this list, at, IIRC, $200, in > pretty decent shape. I even considered buying it! > > You might wish to place a Wanted To Buy note, on Friday, as well, for > others may have older, unused gear that you might convince them to part > with. > > However, be warned that Leica gear commands a higher price in the market > place, even for beaters, than most brands. The trick is to be patient. The > right gear, at the right price (or close to it) will come along, eventually. > > > Meanwhile, nobody is going to throw you off this list because you don't > have the gear. This is a list *"for those who own, or wished they owned" > *Leica Reflex gear. It is the love of the stuff, not the ownership of it, > which binds us all together. > > Cheers! > > --- > David Young > Logan Lake, BC > > Wildlife Photos: www.furnfeather.net > Rodeo Photos: www.galleries.furnfeather.net > Personal Website: www.main.furnfeather.net