If it ain't broke... Paul -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill Sent: 15 January 2011 12:42 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: IT Guru There? Paul, Since I switched the router off overnight the problem seems to have disappeared. I normally leave it on round the clock, though tried switching off overnight, for the first time, a couple of months ago. This was after reading an article that said leaving powered down for a few hours improves speed. I didn't find that but will settle for today's result! Gerry Winskill On 13/01/2011 10:26, Paul Reynolds wrote: > This could be a Wireless channel issue. Your machines may be set for > one channel while the Mac defaults to an alternative one. Having > cycled the router the wireless channel use may well be determined by > the first wireless equipment to successfully negotiate a connection > hence the Mac connected OK. > > A second potential issue is network access. On some routers you can > set whether wireless connected equipment can 'see' each other on the > network. With an Ad Hoc connection being made by your daughters Mac, > her network group is likely to be different to yours and this can > cause issues. > > Even the speed of connectiom may be an issue. One or other of the > laptops could be atempting to connect at 10Mbs, whilst the others at > 100Mbs. This can cause serious problems with wireless routers and > it's usually advisable to set the router to the settings for the > lowest common denominator. > > In short, it's a mine field and because we all have different > connection combinations one that is not easily resolved. The usual > way of managing these situations is to get a stable connection from > the oldest piece of equipment first. That's likely to have the least > flexible spec./connection options. From there add in the newe > equipment one at a time and hopefully you'll maintain stability. If in > adding in a newer machine you ;ose connection from the oldest machine, > you may need to tweak the protocols of the newer machine to connect > using older protocols. > > Of course, the connection issue may be as simple as a clash of IP > addresses. Make sure wireless equipment always connects using DCHP > then set the router to always assign a fixed IP to your own wireless > equipment. That way any Ad Hoc connections such as your daughters > should be assigned a temporary IP that doesn't conflict. > > Plenty of food for thought there then! > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Fossil > Sent: 13 January 2011 09:30 > To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jhb] Re: IT Guru There? > > > If the Asus can get through on wireless it seems to push the problem > source away from the router and back to the Mac. Unfortunately I know > sod all about these - or anything else beginning with "i".. > > bones > bones@xxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Gerry Winskill > Sent: 13 January 2011 09:14 > To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jhb] Re: IT Guru There? > > I often run with the two ethernet connected desktops, plus my wireless > connected Asus laptop, with no problems. The laptop is in another > room. Before buying the Asus I had a very slow Toshiba laptop and that > was a bit more location sensitive but still connected OK. > > My own three are all on different OS. Laptop on Visa. This one on XP > Home and the FSX machine on W7 64 Pro. I'm wondering if the Mac OS > could be the problem? > > Gerry Winskill > > On 12/01/2011 22:36, Fossil wrote: >> That will explain why her PC is hunting for other networks - it is >> doing a wireless sweep to see what it can find. >> >> I don't know much about Netgear but is it happy when you try a >> wireless connection with the two PC's also running on Ethernet? I >> know I had to fiddle with my router settings to get Jen on Wireless >> at the same time as > I >> had the PC and laptop on Ethernet. >> >> bones >> bones@xxxxxxx >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Gerry Winskill >> Sent: 12 January 2011 12:14 >> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [jhb] Re: IT Guru There? >> >> Wireless. Sorry, forgot to add that. >> >> Gerry Winskill >> >> On 12/01/2011 11:52, Fossil wrote: >>> Is the Mac connecting via Ethernet or Wireless? >>> >>> bones >>> bones@xxxxxxx >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf >>> Of Gerry Winskill >>> Sent: 12 January 2011 11:19 >>> To: JHB Restricted >>> Subject: [jhb] IT Guru There? >>> >>> This machine and my FSX machine are wire plugged into my Netgear >>> router. My laptop can also automatically access the internet, via >>> the router, from anywhere in the house. >>> >>> One of my daughters is with us at present. Her laptop is an Apple >>> Mac. When the two machines in here are running, her Mac has >>> difficulty in accessing the network. The first difference is that >>> she has to select from other networks in the area, whilst my laptop >>> doesn't. When my two desktops are running she can't join, when she >>> selects my network. >>> >>> When in NZ, her friend's husband, who works for HP, found that if he >>> was on a network and my daughter hooked into the same one, then he >>> was thrown off. >>> >>> All of which seems to point to her Mac and exonerate my network. >>> Beyond that I haven't a clue. Others might? >>> >>> Gerry Winskill >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > >