Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation

Aggreed!  Sometimes you'll hear 100%  followed by 50%, followed by 30%.  That's
really confusing.  It's horrendous when you're trying to bern cds.  Jaws does
not do a good job at isolating consoles.  What I mean is in linux for example,
If I'm working under one console, I only hear feedback from that process.  When
I switch back to what I was working on, I hear feedback from that process.  Jaws
however will chatter on aimlessly about a telnetwindow if I've already switched
to another telnet window.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:05 AM
Subject: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation


the jfw progress bar has been a long time coming considerring the
competition had it for a long time.

this feature is with out a doubt the biggest new feature in jfw 6 excluding
the ability to use remote desk top that cost extra.


so for most of us the progress bar is the best thing jfw has to offer in
way of new features in version 6.

for the love of me the feature is poorly implemented.

its designed to work automaticly, and in some places like windows update i
actually like that.

most of the time though it drives me crazy with constant chatter.

so like most i turn it off.



the competition how ever does not have it work automaticly, for those not
familiar with window eyes.


for a very good reason, suppose you actually want to do something like
multi tasking, wow what a novel idea.


can you  imagen a blind user who actually wants to download 2 things from 2
differant sites at the same time.

or a blind person using 2 differant programs that have the progress bar.

do blind folks like that really exist.

well yes they do freedom scientific.


this means the progress bar leavs you more confused than helped.


freedom scientific please give us a third manual option with a keystroke
assigned to it
so we can get feedback when we want feedback and only when we want it.


in fact thats the whole idea behing scripting, more power allows  for less
chatter.

so why a feature that does the opposite, giving to much feedback.


bottom line this message was spurred on by the fact another jfw user wanted
to know if they can disable the chatter, the answer being yes and its also
adjustable.



lets hope jfw6.1 fixes this glaring design flaw in what is a very good
feature with a poor implementation.

as it stands now just about every jaws user i know is turning that sucker off.
the first weekthey think its great, second week its turned off.

i have  to admit i am some what surprised that they did not get some of the
same feedback from their beta testers and fix this before shipping.

lets hope they get the message and fix this flaw.
lets hope a free 6.1 upgrade addresses it.

curious if any body on this list actually likes this current implementation
of this feature
or would rather have a manual option they invoke when they want to invoke it.
i have been waiting over a year for jfw to  add this feature, and now that
it has it i am still waiting for them to get it right.

by the way i am asking for a manual option, its o k with me if jfw provides
a 3 toggle option for those that like the automatic option

so do not think i am suggesting getting rid of the current automatic
feature, only adding manual for us that prefer that route.


bill





















At 04:25 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:
>Hi list.  Well, I took the plunge and installed jaws 6.0 today and it went
>without problems.  However, I have noticed that when loading a web page or
>downloading email that jaws keeps on saying 1 percent up to 100 percent at
>various intervals until everything is loaded.  Is there a way to shut this
>up or do I just get use to it being a new feature in the 6.0 product.
>
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