Aggreed! Sometimes you'll hear 100% followed by 50%, followed by 30%. That's really confusing. It's horrendous when you're trying to bern cds. Jaws does not do a good job at isolating consoles. What I mean is in linux for example, If I'm working under one console, I only hear feedback from that process. When I switch back to what I was working on, I hear feedback from that process. Jaws however will chatter on aimlessly about a telnetwindow if I've already switched to another telnet window. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation the jfw progress bar has been a long time coming considerring the competition had it for a long time. this feature is with out a doubt the biggest new feature in jfw 6 excluding the ability to use remote desk top that cost extra. so for most of us the progress bar is the best thing jfw has to offer in way of new features in version 6. for the love of me the feature is poorly implemented. its designed to work automaticly, and in some places like windows update i actually like that. most of the time though it drives me crazy with constant chatter. so like most i turn it off. the competition how ever does not have it work automaticly, for those not familiar with window eyes. for a very good reason, suppose you actually want to do something like multi tasking, wow what a novel idea. can you imagen a blind user who actually wants to download 2 things from 2 differant sites at the same time. or a blind person using 2 differant programs that have the progress bar. do blind folks like that really exist. well yes they do freedom scientific. this means the progress bar leavs you more confused than helped. freedom scientific please give us a third manual option with a keystroke assigned to it so we can get feedback when we want feedback and only when we want it. in fact thats the whole idea behing scripting, more power allows for less chatter. so why a feature that does the opposite, giving to much feedback. bottom line this message was spurred on by the fact another jfw user wanted to know if they can disable the chatter, the answer being yes and its also adjustable. lets hope jfw6.1 fixes this glaring design flaw in what is a very good feature with a poor implementation. as it stands now just about every jaws user i know is turning that sucker off. the first weekthey think its great, second week its turned off. i have to admit i am some what surprised that they did not get some of the same feedback from their beta testers and fix this before shipping. lets hope they get the message and fix this flaw. lets hope a free 6.1 upgrade addresses it. curious if any body on this list actually likes this current implementation of this feature or would rather have a manual option they invoke when they want to invoke it. i have been waiting over a year for jfw to add this feature, and now that it has it i am still waiting for them to get it right. by the way i am asking for a manual option, its o k with me if jfw provides a 3 toggle option for those that like the automatic option so do not think i am suggesting getting rid of the current automatic feature, only adding manual for us that prefer that route. bill At 04:25 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: >Hi list. Well, I took the plunge and installed jaws 6.0 today and it went >without problems. However, I have noticed that when loading a web page or >downloading email that jaws keeps on saying 1 percent up to 100 percent at >various intervals until everything is loaded. Is there a way to shut this >up or do I just get use to it being a new feature in the 6.0 product. > > >-- >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or >the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx